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  • #11281
    halfwaytoheaven
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    Does anyone else feel that Freddie Head really needs to give this horse a break?

    He’s been on the go for over 12 months now – he’s travelled to Hong Kong, Dubai after being heavily campaigned in Europe. Is it any wonder that he flopped today as the 5/6 favourite?

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    I think its a bit early yet, another race or two will tell us much more clearly whether he’s had enough. He’s certainly getting to that stage in his career where it might be a possibility. Silent Witness faded pretty quickly when he reached a similar total number of races, hopefully they wont try to convert Marchand to a miler as they did with Hong Kongs very own Seabiscuit.

    #226806
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    I just wish they’d give him a breather, you know?

    Give him time to recoup and come back for the July Cup and then take on Overdose fresh in the Abbeye.

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    I just wish they’d give him a breather, you know?

    Give him time to recoup and come back for the July Cup and then take on Overdose fresh in the Abbeye.

    Halfway, you know whats going to win the Abbaye! Marchand d"or wants
    6f on soft ground IMO

    #227349
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    Aftertiming here I know, but I ouldnt believe my luck in the Marchand D’Or race, I backed Mood Music, simply as he was the outsider and thought he’d go on the ground, and german horses often seem to be under rated in france.

    When watching the race, Mood Music was held too far back and looked by far the best horse on the day, the way he moved through everything, but the line came too soon, and I thought he was 3rd. Was abolutely delighted when it came up that he got 2nd, and even more delighted when the winner was thrown out and he got 1st.

    Its such a pity we dont overturn results in britain like the french do.

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    Its such a pity we dont overturn results in britain like the french do.

    Yeh, until you back the worthy winner and it gets thrown out!

    #227376
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    Its such a pity we dont overturn results in britain like the french do.

    Yeh, until you back the worthy winner and it gets thrown out!

    In all honesty I didnt even notice what had went on with the front two as was watching Mood Music coming through. At the same time though, there are so many cases which are surely worse than that in britain which dont et overturned and it really grits me.

    I saw one on saturday (on Channel 4 I think) which was a fillies race, which I hadnt bet on. The winner leant all over the eventual runner up and the runner up lost considerable momentum and was beaten by a length and a half, or so. In cases like that I would be in favour of the result being over turned every time. The attitude of the stewards is one of "well you couldnt be sure that the 2nd would have won". Where IMO when the winner has directly impaired the chances of the opposing horse in such a way then the winner should be thrown out every time, because whether the cheating was intentional or not, it swings the result and defeats the object of the race IMO. I never had a bet in this race but remember Soapy Danger leaning all over Galient at ascot in 2006 and the result standing which really pissed me off.

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    Aftertiming here I know, but I ouldnt believe my luck in the Marchand D’Or race, I backed Mood Music, simply as he was the outsider and thought he’d go on the ground, and german horses often seem to be under rated in france.

    When watching the race, Mood Music was held too far back and looked by far the best horse on the day, the way he moved through everything, but the line came too soon, and I thought he was 3rd. Was abolutely delighted when it came up that he got 2nd, and even more delighted when the winner was thrown out and he got 1st.

    Its such a pity we dont overturn results in britain like the french do.

    Neither Mood Music nor Marchand d’Or could go the pace. Marchand d’Or is best at 6f on easy ground as has been stated above. 5f on good or faster is not his scene at all. In the circumstances he ran as I expected him to, thoroughly outpaced but staying on. Mood Music getting the race was a travesty.

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    I was on the end of that Inxile travesty and when needing a favour from the stewards tonight with King Ledley it never came and May’s already looking like a month to down tools.

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    I was on the end of that Inxile travesty and when needing a favour from the stewards tonight with King Ledley it never came and May’s already looking like a month to down tools.

    I’d be wary of downing tools as at the minute the ground has largely been quite consistent lately, with a lot of gd-fm in the description. If anything like 2007s early gd-fm period, we could be in for some intermittent ground over the coming months, which IMO is the harder times to pick.

    Ref Mood Music, I think he was held too far back on sunday as literally the second the jockey started to move him forward the response was instantaneous and far more impressive than anything else on the day. The way I saw it, the best horse eventually won, but the best jockey didnt. I wouldnt have thought that Mood Music failed to go with them, considering the sheer speed he showed once the button was pushed, and it was pushed some way back.

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    I was on the end of that Inxile travesty and when needing a favour from the stewards tonight with King Ledley it never came and May’s already looking like a month to down tools.

    I’d be wary of downing tools as at the minute the ground has largely been quite consistent lately, with a lot of gd-fm in the description. If anything like 2007s early gd-fm period, we could be in for some intermittent ground over the coming months, which IMO is the harder times to pick.

    Ref Mood Music, I think he was held too far back on sunday as literally the second the jockey started to move him forward the response was instantaneous and far more impressive than anything else on the day. The way I saw it, the best horse eventually won, but the best jockey didnt. I wouldnt have thought that Mood Music failed to go with them, considering the sheer speed he showed once the button was pushed, and it was pushed some way back.

    The front two were slowing up quickly having fought each other for four furlongs. Mood Music staying on was an irrelevance. There were only two horses that were ever going to win the race. Which is why it was a travesty.

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