April 19, 2007 at 16:12 #1430sberryMember
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we see this put up as an excuse when a horse hasn’t run very well and smokescreens aside, how does a horse lose it’s action and why ?
what made me think about this was watching the herds of zebras and the like being pursued across the masai mara game reserve by the lions and cheetahs – if an animal can keep it’s action under that sort of pressure on rock hard going without shoes and in temperatures of over 100, why are races horses so soft ?April 19, 2007 at 16:17 #52928
maybe because we’ve bred, cross-bred, and inter-bred them so much that their legs, bones, tendons and muscles are prone to weaknesses and injuries.
in the wild, a group of racehorses would probably outrun the lions and cheetahs (well, the other zebras really) at first, but their numbers would gradually be whittled down as a result of breaking legs and going lame, imho…
i feel a hypothetical ‘who would win?’ thread coming on!!!April 19, 2007 at 17:13 #52930WallaceParticipant
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If you sprained your ankle or knocked you knee this would most probably result in a loss of your normal walking action or gait. Simple thing for a horse to pick up a knock loading into stalls, jumping or galloping close by others.
Often when this kind of thing happens to a horse there is no obvious sign until the next morning when it will have heat in a joint or be obviously lame.April 19, 2007 at 17:19 #52933heffoMember
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Maybe thats how a lion catches dinner….. grabs the zebra who has ‘lost his action’. :cheesy:April 19, 2007 at 17:23 #52935
Thinking about, I reckon I’ve done the zebras a disservice by assuming the racehorses would be faster.
I remember hearing something about a small-time trainer at a provincial track in the USA.
He had a zebra which was actually competitive with some fairly decent horses. I believe it was ridden by an inexperienced female jockey (possibly his daughter even) and ended up winning a big graded stakes race despite being tailed off at half-way.
Apparently, he landed quite some touch and set himself up with his own yard on the back of it. Just goes to show, eh? Wonder if it thought it saw a lion?April 19, 2007 at 18:08 #52936MeshaheerMember
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Haha have you been watching Racing Stripes NV?
Nice story…shame they couldn’t have made it look a little more realistic though.April 19, 2007 at 18:21 #52938
Good grief Mesh – you’re right! :o
LOL @ ‘more realistic’ though, V – it’s a zebra, they let it run, and it wins!!!
Alongside that, I thought the ‘comedy’ talking flies were pretty believable…
:biggrin:April 19, 2007 at 22:03 #52940SwallowCottageMember
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I have read that a Zebra can run as fast as a greyhound but I imagine that the top speeds recorded are only when the zebra sees a lion in their rear mirror.
This website gives explainations of racing comments including why horses lose their action – the most relevant one being that the horse disliked the track<br>http://www.equibase.com/products/cc-comments.cfm Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂApril 19, 2007 at 22:52 #52944
so you could feasibly say "hung like a donkey" about a runner, and not be paying it much of a compliment!!!
;)April 20, 2007 at 11:22 #52947doyleyParticipant
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I remember watching a horse racing documentary that could not give a definitive answer as to why we race horses at two and three.<br> Especially at 2 year old, as there bones have not actuallly fully formed, they are literally "babies"
So a horse that is just two,
>whose skelelton hasn’t yet finished forming<br>> running on a turning, FIRM track <br>> with another 8 stone animal on top of him<br>>…. carrying a weapon ! :( <br>> encouraged to go faster..
will surely, at some point Lose it’s Action !!!
doyleyApril 21, 2007 at 03:20 #52950sberryMember
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like zebras don’t run until they’re old ?April 21, 2007 at 07:43 #52951doyleyParticipant
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They run when they have to,
Between, 12:00 and 14:00, Lunch time.<br> 17:00 and 20:00, Dinner
..and avoid the "All You Can Eat" Prairie at all costs! :)
doyleyApril 21, 2007 at 23:08 #52954AnonymousInactive
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LOL.. wow, what an intresting post…made me laugh anyhow :) <br>zebras and horses come from the same family line ‘equidae’ order; perissodactyla<br>They trot or gallop on strong legs. They have strong muscles and large lungs for running long distances without tiring. <br>When chased by a predator they can gallop up to 55 k.p.h.<br>some facts i thought you might like, however i have no idea on the size of a race horses lungs… <br>also The hoof of a zebra (and other horses), is actually an elongated third toe. Their other toes are not visible. The term perissodactyla means "single toed". :o :biggrin:April 22, 2007 at 08:37 #52955DroneParticipant
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The Perissodactyls are an ancient lineage of mammals once much more diverse than today. Now all but replaced in their ecological niche by the later evolving even-toed, Artiodactyl ruminant ungulates e.g cattle, sheep, pigs, deer.
The three surviving families of odd-toed ungulate are classified as follows.
* ORDER PERISSODACTYLA<br> o Suborder Hippomorpha<br> + Family Equidae: horses and allies, about 9 species <br> # Przewalski’s Horse, Equus przewalskii<br> # Domestic Horse, Equus caballus<br> # Donkey or African Ass, Equus asinus<br> # Onager or Asiatic Ass, Equus hemionus<br> # Kiang or Tibetan Wild Ass, Equus kiang<br> # Plains Zebra, Equus quagga<br> # Cape Mountain Zebra, Equus zebra<br> # Hartmann’s Mountain Zebra, Equus hartmannae<br> # Grevy’s Zebra, Equus grevyi<br> o Suborder Ceratomorpha<br> + Family Tapiridae: tapirs, 4 species<br> # Brazilian Tapir, Tapirus terrestris<br> # Mountain Tapir, Tapirus pinchaque<br> # Baird’s Tapir, Tapirus bairdii<br> # Malayan Tapir, Tapirus indicus<br> + Family Rhinocerotidae: rhinoceroses, 5 species <br> # Black Rhinoceros, Diceros bicornis<br> # White Rhinoceros, Ceratotherium simum<br> # Indian Rhinoceros, Rhinoceros unicornis<br> # Javan Rhinoceros, Rhinoceros sondaicus<br> # Sumatran Rhinoceros, Dicerorhinus sumatrensis
So catch them while you can:biggrin:
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