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good call on Roman Quest, EC. it lost the race at the start and was given a poor ride afterwards but it wasn’t a backable price and was well beat in the end
Hail The Chief finished as his last race suggested he would and I am not surprised Kempton suited him but for a moment 2 out he looked like he was having second thoughts. Nothing wrong with Kempton at all, or evening racing.
EC why did you lay Hucking Hill? (I’m not aftertiming see lays and plays). The horse was much better on paper than the others and wasn’t especially short. Good call with Roman Quest EC and SBerry you were right with Mogok Ruby – good call. (It was my cover bet to Hucking Hill).
[Yes, you see so many greyhounds racing on right handed tracks don’t you.<br>]
Wow…thats a real "extreme" sport your talking about. Cant see how the novelty would ever wear off. :biggrin:
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and i thought people were here because they enjoyed racing – obviously not. to compare the racing that has so far been staged on kempton’s aw track to greyhound racing is pathetic – it has been markedly better than many of the poor quality turf flat or jumps meetings but i have heard no call for this racing to be culled – and the course itself is far superior to many of the poor flat or jumps courses. if it’s quality you’re worried about let’s shut down brighton racetrack for a start, and a lot of these ridiculous jumps venues that stage a few low grade meets a year – no i don’t mean that, if you like racing you should be glad of the increase in your sport.<br>i don’t understand the anti-aw faction but EC is right, get used to it or shut up or ship out. it’s not just the way it’s going but the quality will keep increasing too.
greyhound racing – now there is a pointless sport – might as well roll a dice every 12 minutes…
[obviously not. to compare the racing that has so far been staged on kempton’s aw track to greyhound racing is pathetic – it has been markedly better than many of the poor quality turf flat or jumps meetings but i have heard no call for this racing to be culled – and the course itself is far superior to many of the poor flat or jumps courses. if it’s quality you’re worried about let’s shut down brighton racetrack for a start, and a lot of these ridiculous jumps venues that stage a few low grade meets a year – no i don’t mean that, if you like racing you should be glad of the increase in your sport. <br>i don’t understand the anti-aw faction but EC is right, get used to it or shut up or ship out. it’s not just the way it’s going but the quality will keep increasing too.
greyhound racing – now there is a pointless sport – might as well roll a dice every 12 minutes… ]
Mr Berry. Do you have shares in an allweather track? Pathetic??? I dont think expressing the opinion held by many people that allweather racing is really quite boring should be termed pathetic and it isnt just a matter of quality.
Frankly I would rather watch two chasers of similar poor standard go to war over the last few fences at Ludlow then a couple of ponies kicking a beach into each others faces at Wolverhampton. Just for the record, Im not botherd or offended by anyone else not sharing such an opinion. For the time being, we live in a democracy and until I can get myself to a position of world domination, then the misplaced affections held dearly by others must be respected.
"shut up or ship out" Thanks for that. Tell me, do you work in middle management??? It sounds like you picked that sound bite out of a text book. Perhaps you would like a forum whereby nobody writes anything you dont agree with?? Cant manage that for now but perhaps if you start your own thread, we will all promise not to write all over it.
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P.S As you might have guessed from the username, Im not ante flat racing.
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not bothered – your last paragraph belies that sir harry. what i do find pathetic are those who claim to be pro-racing but constantly knock certain aspects of it. no i don’t hold shares in aw tracks and though i enjoy this sort of racing you won’t find me knocking other parts of racing i don’t enjoy as much. if someone isn’t bothered and is not anti-racing i don’t understand why they would continually want to knock an aspect of racing – as far as i can see it needs all the support it can get and doesn’t need sniping from within whatever one’s personal preference. that’s all sir, i really am getting more and more irked with people moaning, in my opinion un-necessarily as it is only negative to the sport – what’s the point of that ? have your preferences by all means but why knock the bits you don’t like ?
Quote: from Glenn on 6:02 pm on April 21, 2006[br]
Nobody likes me – I don’t care.
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<br>FWIW i like yer, and i enjoy the Glenn v TDK banter too
there’s now’t wrong with the AW as i keep saying, bookies may want it, but as long as it’s decent enough racing, who cares, there are good bets if look hard enough
as to the 16 runner thing, did you read the Rowley File?
(Edited by empty wallet at 12:10 am on April 22, 2006)
[- as far as i can see it needs all the support it can get and doesn’t need sniping from within whatever one’s personal preference]
Needs support from within??? Tell me, what area of racing do you actually work in?? I think youll find that by and large the breeders and dealers within the NH industry dont see themselves as being within the same club. And the fact is SB, that I think AW racing is of no interest to me and that is just a fact ….and while I might think myself a very important chap…this opinion of mine probably wont do AW racing much harm. So perhaps your being a bit more irked than your doctor would think healthy.
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Quote: from empty wallet on 11:55 pm on April 21, 2006[br]
Quote: from Glenn on 6:02 pm on April 21, 2006[br]
Nobody likes me – I don’t care.
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<br>FWIW i like yer, and i enjoy the Glenn v TDK banter too
there’s now’t wrong with the AW as i keep saying, bookies may want it, but as long as it’s decent enough racing, who cares, there are good bets if look hard enough
as to the 16 runner thing, did you read the Rowley File?
(Edited by empty wallet at 12:10 am on April 22, 2006)<br>
The Law,
To read the Rowley file I would either:
1) have to spend a quid that would indirectly find its way into Fallon’s, Murphy’s or Kempton’s pocket.
2) Be reduced to trapsing down my local newsagents and glimpsing a peak, rather in the style that you’d look at a jazz mag when you were 13, before putting the paper down.
I have no desire to do either. Maybe you could enlighten me…..
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Quote: from apracing on 6:16 pm on April 21, 2006[br]<br>They could stage six Group 1 races at one hour intervals and some peopke would still whinge.
If they’d opted to start at 6:50 this evening and stuck to 30 min intervals, what would there be to complain about. Of course the racing is put on to fit in with shop opening times – that’s because racing and betting are financially  tied together, just the same as they are in every other country in the world bar Dubai.
As for the football analogy, is the London derby being staged at 12:45 tomorrow to suit the fans and players – or is it just possible that it’s a financial arrangement to suit Sky TV.
He who pays the piper dictates what time he tunes up – racing is hardly alone in that.
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Much as I dislike Sky TV, they are doing football no harm by screening quality football matches on a wall-to-wall basis. No doubt the income generated has played a large part in attracting the better foreign players who now grace our screens, and has raised the standard of the sport in this country.<br> Maybe horse racing could do the same, all the signs are that the BHB is taking it in the opposite direction equally as quickly.<br> 28 minute intervals between races enables them to stage four meetings a day, rather than 3, and it doesn’t need a crystal ball to see what standard the extra meeting would be.<br> How many viewers would ‘banded’ football attract? ÂÂÂ
(Edited by reet hard at 5:04 am on April 22, 2006)
I was there; I enjoyed it. It was a decent card and seeing Hail the Chief hack up was a bonus.
I have nothing against the code ‘a/w racing’. I have nothing against horses running on a weatherproof surface. The thing that makes it boring for me is that EVERY race on EVERY track is an oval 1m1f or so. The track always resembles a greyhound track, therefore the association is made. Southwell, Wolves, Lingers and now Kempton. Oval shaped tracks measuring roughly a mile and a quarter.<br>The thing that I love about racing in this country is that the tracks are so interesting in their design. Where else in the world would you have a dog-leg undulating run in such as Beverley? Would you be able to find a similar track to Windsor flat or Fontwell NH anywhere else in the world?<br>a/w has yet to grasp that UK horse racing is so interesting due to it’s unique track designs.<br>Would you want to have 50 tracks that look like Santa Anita clones? I wouldn’t. <br>I think the code will be embraced a little when Newmarket and it’s ‘speed strip’ a/w track comes online. At least it will be a little more original than an oval.
hold on RD, granted there is a much more diverse mix of tracks for the turf but there would be with over 50 of ’em but there are also many that are quite similar too. the 4 aw tracks are not all the same tho, wolves and southwell may be similar shape flat ovals but they have very different surfaces, kempton is a stretch oval with a good 3F finishing straight and this does make a nice difference imo and lingfield is nothing like an oval and has gradients and runners have a testing corner into the straight coming down the hill – far from a flat oval. i do agree it would be nice to see different designs tho but you’re right, most aw tracks will probably be built to the same design but you never know, someone might get adventurous one day – different is better than all the same, for sure. i guess i’m too easily pleased but tracks like kempton and lingfield close together means i’ll always have some good local racing regardless of the weather.
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