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December 21, 2021 at 14:47 #1573633
Sunak has managed to find another £1 billion hidden down the sofa.
Alternatively, he could allow businesses to operate normally and turn down the scaremongering and advise the public it is perfectly safe to visit them. It might just work. But that would cause the usual suspects who think public health should dictate every aspect of government policy to have a meltdown and scream at him for being irresponsible.
December 21, 2021 at 14:53 #1573637God yes CAS
COULD not have put it better
Slowly folks are realising that Whitty and Valance rule
Johnson has meekly obeyed up to now
Personally im pretty certain johnson is busted now
Party on no 10 the rest of the country will be doing the same
December 21, 2021 at 14:58 #1573640“Alternatively, he could allow businesses to operate normally and turn down the scaremongering and advise the public it is perfectly safe to visit them. It might just work”
Bloody hell, now that really would be irresponsible in the extreme.
Telling people it is “perfectly safe to visit” when they could catch covid.Can’t believe anyone would suggest such a thing.
Value Is EverythingDecember 21, 2021 at 15:02 #1573643They could catch Covid. They could get run over by a car on the way to the shops. They could have a heart attack running to catch a bus.
There is risk in every aspect of life.
Why not treat people as adults who are capable of making their own risk assessment instead of as naughty children who need to be told what to do?
December 21, 2021 at 15:05 #1573644This time last year, Matt Hancock (remember him) said once the most vulnerable people were vaccinated we could Cry Freedom.
Why haven’t we?
December 21, 2021 at 15:54 #1573652Drakeford now bought in fines for those that dont work from home but go to an office
Yes thats right..
This is pure spite and the desire for control. Ive never bought too much into the slightly paranoid soundings views on covid restrictions but there is no doubt that this creep has a genuinely vile side to him
December 21, 2021 at 16:08 #1573655Sturgeon has locked up scotland for three weeks
Why do they let her ???
Surely scots should just say no
Ffs why are these people. Becoming biddable slaves???
Clive how did passports go in plumpton??
December 21, 2021 at 16:16 #1573658No passports but i think its because its a less than 4000 crowd?
December 21, 2021 at 16:54 #1573667Last year the hope was that vaccines would prevent transmission of the virus. Sadly that wasn’t to be but it still reduces hospitalisation and death. It was a bitter blow but we should still be grateful that the vaccine protects us. As for restrictions I understand that many trains aren’t running because of staff sickness. If/when that spreads to everything else (food supplies, NHS, energy supplies, gritting lorries etc etc) the country is going to grind to a halt unless we don’t have a circuit breaker of some kind.
December 21, 2021 at 17:03 #1573668Wrong moe. Wrong on all counts
This is just you being hysterical
Mass hysteria is what johnson propogates
There are 12 dead
100 in icu with omicronThis is not evidence
Whats the matter with your normal good reasoning Moe ??
There is no evidence to justify a lockdown
If you want one then you have one.
The rest of us want to get on
Omicron is very spreadable but not harmful
The seven day isolation will be over for most this week
The isolation rules are nonsense
The whole nightmare is nonsense
Whils i disagree robustly. I still think you are a wonderful poster. So keep smiling 🤗🤗🤗
December 21, 2021 at 17:05 #1573670Thank you Clive
I bought the distances at 35😍😍
December 21, 2021 at 17:30 #1573679Moe. All due respect but you can’t have a lockdown on that basis and cases were actually slightly down today too
December 21, 2021 at 17:36 #1573681Sounds like we are going to talk ourselves into a lockdown.
December 21, 2021 at 17:49 #1573684Noway Cork
Heres the thing
If ****** johnson could not lock us down due to lack of evidence
How will he manage it in thd new yr??
Cabinet will not let him
And he has lost the nation with his blatant partygates
He has lost his base
Whitty and vallance must be fired
Good riddance
December 21, 2021 at 17:59 #1573686Johnson has announced there will be no more restrictions before Christmas but it is still under review afterwards.
I wonder if this is a sign of his political weakness. Some of the Cabinet, including Sunak, are clearly against lockdown. This opposition may have increased since the Spectator story about Sage and worst case modelling.
Johnson also knows 100 of his MPs are against him and probably a lot more are not entirely happy. And he suffered an absolutely humiliating by-election defeat.
I sense there is more public opposition to lockdown now, especially after vaccines and boosters. The crowd at the darts last night were singing “Stand Up If You Hate Boris”. The good old Guardian tried to suggest it was because of the cheese and wine party but I reckon it was dissatisfaction with the whole situation.
I also reckon Sage might have finally overplayed their hand by suggestion omicron might kill 6,000 people a day. Who seriously thinks that is credible?
December 21, 2021 at 18:00 #1573687I’m not privy to exactly what went on with sage but we have a certain amount of evidence
If you commissioned someone in a business to produce predictions and all they did was show you the worst possible scenarios, then they would be fired of course
No different
I don’t think they should be fired but their influence needs curtailing.
December 21, 2021 at 18:02 #1573690Omicron will be fast spreading but hopefully infection rates will go down fast afterwards. But we will still have those few weeks where many people are sick all at the same time at the worst possible time. When is there a better time to have a circuit breaker than when schools are closed and many people are on holiday anyway. I’m in self imposed lockdown anyway because, as with other times throughout the pandemic I can do so without it having a great effect on my life, other than not seeing my grandchildren, and it might just protect others as well as myself. As a family we just look at each situation as and when it arises. Eg my grandson’s friend has covid. He thankfully hasn’t caught it. Is not at school at the moment because of inset days: however school will reopen on Wednesday so all the children can have a get together. He will, however, have a headache on that day because he wants to be covid free on Christmas Day. Maybe if everyone went for the sensible option there would be no need for slightly draconian measures but there seems to be a pandemic of lack of common sense amongst many people.
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