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  • #1711406
    GM23
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    An absolute machine of a filly.

    To win easily after that first bend mishap was unbelievable.

    #1711409
    zilzal
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    Victoria Regina!

    That sceptre blaze she bears befits her

    “Pilot error” on the first bend is probably being kind!

    Zafonic influence in her background may have helped her tonight

    #1711414
    LD73
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    Think it was daddy’s influence that kicked in off that home turn – she got proper mullered on that first bend and must have a great temperament to put it behind her and go get them.

    Has now won on firm, good to firm, good and soft ground and taken G1s at 6f, 7f and a mile – obviously the best two year old filly of the season but does she now have a case for being the best 2 yr old full stop?

    #1711415
    ham
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    Not sure it was ryans fault he tried to set her alight out the stalls, shes anything but slow but she was off her feet for 1/2f

    Arguement to be made shes the best 2yo filly ive ever seen, we often talk about the colts like pinatubo, COT etc, ill be surprised if shes ever beaten, assuming she trains on, she will though, shes a specimen, has a frame to grow into

    No clue what price she is for the guineas, irrespective of the godolphin horse, i doubt theyll be anything that can get near her

    She’d hammer the 2yo colts, TLIW included, her figures lto where spectacular, havent had a chance to look at these yet but theyll be the same

    I dont know what theyll rate her but ittl be up there with the best ever at her age

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Yes, she ran like a machine. No signs of greenness, no worries despite being stuck on the inside.

    If she trains on she could easily trouble the colts next year.

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    LD73
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    Wasn’t Ryan’s fault, even though he had to chase her out of the stalls to get a slot, he had done that and then Totally Justified and Manuel Franco just came down on her and she lost several lengths because of it – not sure what he was thinking as he didn’t have anything on his outside forcing him into the rail, so it was just very poor riding on his part and was quite dangerous to boot.

    The offical ratings are:

    Shadow of Light on 119
    Lake Victoria 118 (prior to today’s run)
    The Lion In Winter 117

    Timeform are:

    Shadow of Light 120
    Lake Victoria 119p
    The Lion In Winter 119p

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    He was forced to snatch up by the jockey in yellow coming over.
    However, it may sound daft but it’s possible the interference actually helped her. Ryan was trying to get a prominent early position. Had he got that position the pace tells you the leaders went far too fast. Second, third and fourth (a 13/1 shot and two 45/1) all came from well off the pace. On ratings LV had a hell of a lot in hand of those three coming into the race. So beating them as she did can be to a certain degree expected. What it did show was Lake Victoria stays a mile well, but although a bloody good performance, it was no Arazi.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    “It was no Arazi”

    Absolutely correct, Ginge.

    There is a tendency for hyperbole to kick in immediately after a visually impressive performance; once the initial excitement settles, an objective look can be given.

    Lake Victoria’s form was clearly superior to that of her rivals going into the race and she has simply overcome trouble in running to beat inferior opposition.

    As for all the inevitable “best ever” nonsense, I’ll be surprised if she matches the 127 Timeform awarded Lady Aurelia in 2016 (the brilliant Forest Flower was given the same rating thirty years earlier), and she won’t get anywhere near the 133 the Halifax organisation handed to Jacinth in Racehorses of 1972.

    #1711462
    mickeyjp
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    Not bothered regards ratings. I just enjoy good horses and she is top drawer and I think still improving. Next year is another thing. If she trains on and ,as seems likely,grows into her frame she could be very very good. Ryan picking up nearly 90 grand with easy winners. He’s worth the big bucks and has a knack in the big races of taking the right course. Auguste rodin a prime example. Btw if shadow of light is 120, what is expanded after 2 runs. Sinndaar was beaten in a group one on his second start and boy he turned out damn good.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Shadow Of Light does not get the 120 rating from the Dewhurst, Mickey. In the Dewhurst he was on the wrong side of the course and only won because he was so much better than the others. Expanded has a lot of scope for further improvement, but – at the moment – he’s rated far more than a “neck” inferior to Shadow Of Light… who gets his rating from the Middle Park.

    Didn’t Sinndar win the National Stakes on his second start?

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