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May 29, 2011 at 06:39 #357726
I have it from a very good source, that Workforce is expected to head for the Eclipse next, whereas So You Think will go down the Prince of Wales Stakes, then King George.
Most likely meet in the Arc.
May 29, 2011 at 07:36 #357731AnonymousInactive- Total Posts 17716
There’s no reason Workforce can’t run in the King George (providng he doesn’t have too hard a race in the Eclipse), last year’s debacle had nothing to do wih the course.
He’s a stronger horse this year, there’s 3 weeks between the races, and the KG is the 2nd best 12f race in Europe, so it should be a natural target. Then we’ll see how well the Aussie stays!May 31, 2011 at 21:16 #358087Behkabad makes his seasonal reappearance in a G2 on the Jockey Club card this Sunday. His odds for the King George could change dramatically after that run.
June 7, 2011 at 04:56 #359339Here they question whether So You Think can stay the King George on another site they are saying he won’t have the speed to beat the Guineas winner Frankel.He must be some horse.
June 7, 2011 at 09:18 #359365Don’t know why Carlton House and Frankel are best price 10/1 – Neither are likely to run, and the classic generation do not compare to older horses.
June 9, 2011 at 17:38 #359788Very interested in Reliable Man for this.
I was very impressed with his win on Sunday.
I do hope they go down this route as the weight he will receive from his elders will be a huge advantage.
The step up in trip will also be all in his favour.
He’s improving fast and 14s with WH looks a very decent bet.
June 9, 2011 at 20:45 #359820the KG is the 2nd best 12f race in Europe
Don’t agree. Top 2 12f races in Europe are the Arc and the Derby. Unless you mean weight for age.
June 9, 2011 at 20:49 #359821I think Reliable Man could be very interesting. Incredibly progressive, solid pedigree, will be a great 3yo contender.
Also it seems that Workforce connections are ducking a lot of clashes (first the Tatts Gold Cup, now the PoW). It could be the wisdom and nurturing genius of Stoute at work, but I feel like you shouldn’t need to nurture a Derby/Arc-winning horse who is now 4yo that much. I am cooling significantly on his KG/Arc chances.
June 11, 2011 at 09:23 #360057I took some 16s on Reliable Man yesterday with Bald Fred.
I’m not convinced either Workforce or So You Think will turn up.
Also, Midday and Snow Fairy may ending up clashing at Goodwood in the Nassau.
Bekhabad is injured and will miss the race.
Reliable Man’s main rivals could turn out to be St Nick and Rewilding. Therefore, at 14s and 16s he could turn out to be a steal.
The danger is he may go for the Grand Prix de Paris but it is highly encouraging that his trainer mentioned that in terms of stud value winning the King George would make greater appeal than the French race.
June 11, 2011 at 15:43 #360137Just looking through my records on how 3 year olds have done in this race since the turn of the century;
2010 – 6 runners – 2 x 3 y/o; 2nd Cape Blanco 9/2, 5th Workforce 8/11
2009 – 9 runners – 3 x y/o; 4th Alwaary 12/1, 5th Golden Sword 9/2, 8th Rockhampton 125/1
2008 – 8 runners – no 3 year olds
2007 – 7 runners – no 3 year olds
2006 – 6 runners – no 3 year olds
2005 – 12 runners – 1 x 3 y/o; 8th Eswarah 9/1
2004 – 11 runners – 1 x 3 y/o; 6th Tycoon 16/1
2003 – 12 runners – 2 x 3 y/o; 1st Alamshar 13/2, 3rd Kris Kin 7/2
2002 – 9 runners – no 3 year olds
2001 – 12 runners – 5 x 3 y/o; 1st Galileo 1/2, 4th Storming Home 25/1, 7th Anabaa Blue 18/1, 8th Morsidi 25/1, 12th Ice Dancer 200/1
2000 – 7 runners – 5th Air Shakur 10/1, 6th Raypour 100/1
June 11, 2011 at 17:02 #360148I guess So You Think can always go for the Eclipse instead. From his races, including a good Melbourne Cup 3rd, I can’t see him not staying 1m4f right out.
I’m not convinced either Workforce or So You Think will turn up.
Reliable Man’s main rivals could turn out to be St Nick and Rewilding. Therefore, at 14s and 16s he could turn out to be a steal.
The trainer mentioned that he doesn’t want Reliable Man running on firm ground.
Edit: He also seemed to stumble 50m from home. Not sure what to make of that?
June 11, 2011 at 17:33 #360153Presto,
I would be pretty certain So you Think would stay 12 furlongs no problem.
I just think with St Nick entered Coolmoore will probably send So You Think elsewhere. I think this will be St Nick’s big mid summer target.
Regarding Reliable Man’s stumble, what are you getting at there? I don’t understand, do you think he was at the end of his tether or he wasn’t liking the ground?
I’d also be very hopeful the ground descripion on the day would include the word good, but you never know.
Already booked the hotel for this. Last year was fantastic, would be asking a bit much to see a performace to equal that!
June 12, 2011 at 06:17 #360217Most trainers are reluctant to race immature three year olds against the best of the breed while still novices.Remember what happened with Workforce last year?
June 12, 2011 at 11:05 #360248I acknowledge that Andy. However, it was the trainer who made the entry and entries were only made last Monday or Tuesday.
June 12, 2011 at 16:34 #360321Is the trainer an old hand? Has he ever had a three year old trashed in the King George?
June 16, 2011 at 17:16 #361012Trainer is very experienced and highly accomplished. Won races all over the world including the Melbourne Cup last year.
Looks like we won’t be seeing SYT in the King George now. I’m sure he’ll go to the Eclipse now and take on Workforce.
It’s been said that Workforce is better of a break so 3 weeks after the Eclipse might be too soon for him to take in the King George.
Simon Crisford states that Rewilding’s next target will be the King George. However, this horse clearly needs a good break to show his very best and 5 weeks might not be enough after his undoubtedly tough race yesterday. Let’s face it, Frankie threw the kitchen sink at him. Fantastic performance though. I remember seeing him at the St Leger last season and couldn’t believe how narrow he was.
Await the Dawn could be a possible contender, we’ll see how he gets on when he runs on Saturday.
June 16, 2011 at 17:17 #361013Trainer is very experienced and highly accomplished. Won races all over the world including the Melbourne Cup last year.
Looks like we won’t be seeing SYT in the King George now. I’m sure he’ll go to the Eclipse now and take on Workforce.
It’s been said that Workforce is better of a break so 3 weeks after the Eclipse might be too soon for him to take in the King George.
Simon Crisford states that Rewilding’s next target will be the King George. However, this horse clearly needs a good break to show his very best and 5 weeks might not be enough after his undoubtedly tough race yesterday. Let’s face it, Frankie threw the kitchen sink at him. Fantastic performance though. I remember seeing him at the St Leger last season and couldn’t believe how narrow he was.
Await the Dawn could be a possible contender, we’ll see how he gets on when he runs on Saturday.
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