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Yes Purwell?
If you have a problem with my views try answering them or countering them for once ? How’s that for an original suggestion?
But you never do do you? Never front up ever
“No reply IS a reply” – it’s catching on.
Top man, Purwell – some people lack the consistent common courtesy to merit replies.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Oh yeah right. It makes a childish brainless comment (again)and I ask why it never backs up or is too timid to engage.
Problem?
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I never believed the “rape” allegations, but Assange allegedly put American lives at risk by his “leaks”, deserves to stand trial over there.
Value Is EverythingThey’re using the old “us left wingers are morally superior to you, we shouldn’t engage in debating” crap Clive.
Don’t let them get to you.
Value Is EverythingJust you wait, they’ll come back with “we are not left wingers” next…
When they’ve actually gone further left than Grand Alliance did in the King Edward.
Value Is EverythingOh it’s so boring ging. Predictable but amusingly cowardly too so it’s worth calling out how ridiculous it looks
“But Assange allegedly put American lives at risk by his ‘leaks’.”
So the American political establishment says but I do not believe it for a second. Their case against Assange is politically motivated. Patel should have told them where to go.
I do not especially like Assange as a person or as a journalist but this is a fundamental attack on press freedom and an attempt to intimidate journalists. It should be resisted.
When you “leak” millions of secret documents without knowing what’s in them there is every chance that they can put people at risk. He couldn’t care less.
The us has far more freedom of information than just about anywhere.
And given that he has allied himself to Russia, any claims that he is fighting for press freeedom are absurd
“but this is a fundamental attack on press freedom”
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Some of the stuff Assange did is good CAS; but from what I saw he may well have taken it too far.
Not saying he has or hasn’t, just that he should stand trial for it.Is allegedly publishing things that put Allied troops at a greater risk a “fundamental press freedom”? I don’t think so.
If this was our British troops that someone in the USA allegedly put at risk, I think we’d want him to face justice here and expect our ally the USA to comply with our request.Value Is EverythingHe could easily have released information such as home addresses of Exiled afghan translators say. Obviously there wasn’t and couldn’t possibly have been any attempt by him to redact such information
For that alone he should be hammered
Which states use the chair? They should try him there for a laugh
Will his family and Supporters complain when he’s sizzling away like a piece of KFC in the deep fryer and the video is leaked?
I hope our government has had assurances that won’t happen, Clive.
Otherwise it would be a reason not to send him.Value Is Everything“If this was our British troops that someone in the USA allegedly put at risk, I think we’d want him to face justice here and expect our ally the USA to comply with our request.”
But they wouldn’t, would they?
America has made its opposition to American citizens being tried in International Criminal Courts, so the chances of it complying with an extradition request from Britain is minuscule to non-existent.
I would not use the positive word “ally” either. Most of the American political class is anti-British, as have been several American Presidents (including the incumbent).
What specific law has Assange actually broken?
This is what he is accused of.
From The Washington Post 2019:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/04/11/what-law-is-julian-assange-accused-breaking/
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Cork. Several anti British presidents ? Who?
The relationship isn’t perfect but that’s a bit strong
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Biden. Possibly
Trump. No
Obama. No
Bush. Def no
Clinton.no
Bush. Def no
Ford. No idea
Carter. Probably not
Nixon. Hated everyone
Johnson. Probably not
JFK. No. Biggest Anglophile of them all
Eisenhower. No
Truman. Possibly yesVery messy situation this Assange one, morally I mean. I’m sure it’s fairly cut and dry in terms of what laws he broke.
Not really sure where I stand on the matter, it’s all just rather uncomfortable. Yes it can be argued that he put lives at risk by releasing all those documents, but some of those leaked things were videos of US troops killing innocent people because they thought (without checking too hard) that journalists were in fact soldiers.
It just seems horribly ironic that a man who outed the US government for covering up the killings of innocent people is being sought to be put on trial for putting peoples lives at risk.
Now I understand those US troops were in a warzone and you can’t expect them to wait until their helicopter has been shot down for them to decide that those chaps on the ground are indeed Taliban and I wouldn’t expect soldiers to be put on trial for innocent mistakes especially when they are under the insane stress of being in a war. I just don’t see Assange as this evil villain, he’s probably just a bit autistic.
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