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I think they are, prize money just goes down and down yet jockeys get a pay rise.
They are getting on for 10% of the winning prize money just for riding in some races and they receive in total more than the winning owner with some races of 14 runners.
I think they should get significantly less for riding in these "banded" races.
It’s a wonder there’s any owners left in the game here, there’s just no incentive, owners just pay more and more and get back less and less.Whats the figures, Yeats?
What do they get paid on average?
I have to say I’m in the jockeys camp here. I don’t think we appreciate how little they get compared to other sportsmen and they have to do a hell of a lot more.
Jockey’s put their lives at risk day in day out, and they starve themselves extremely. I don’t think they get overpaid.
How about this card in the Jobcentre ?
" Applicants will be required to report for work at the crack of dawn, where they will be expected to ride out for no pay. The job involves many, many thousands of miles criss-crossing the UK (at your own expense) to ride no-hopers in far-flung two-bob races for ungrateful (and often downright deluded) owners. You will be required to maintain your weight at up to two stone less than is good for you. This position offers no holiday or sick pay, and no pension.
Applicants must be aware that death or serious injury are very possible on a daily basis.
£140 per ride + prize money"
Any takers ?
How about this card in the Jobcentre ?
" Applicants will be required to report for work at the crack of dawn, where they will be expected to ride out for no pay. The job involves many, many thousands of miles criss-crossing the UK (at your own expense) to ride no-hopers in far-flung two-bob races for ungrateful (and often downright deluded) owners. You will be required to maintain your weight at up to two stone less than is good for you. This position offers no holiday or sick pay, and no pension.
Applicants must be aware that death or serious injury are very possible on a daily basis.
£140 per ride + prize money"
Any takers ?
Exactly why a 3% pay rise is embarassing for jockeys.
You don’t hear of footballers or racing drivers getting a 3% pay rise. They get thousands upon thousands of pounds extra each increase
Icant see a 3% pay rise as OTT dealing with animals as unpredictable as horses is a very skilled job,standing next to a fence as horses fly over is frightening enough riding them into a fence takes some bottle, i think they are worth there fee,same applies to the flat boys.
No question these guys and gals risk their lives daily,they have to love their work to travel the ridiculous miles they cover on a yearly basis!If i was a millionaire with all the time in the world and i was told to drive to Lingfield on a grey damp winters morning to sip Champagne and just watch the racing i would say P**s Off!No doubt money is the incentive to do this,but also ambition,to be the best ref A.P.McCoy!Top jockeys on the flat are rewarded not just for winning Group 1"s but also a percentage of breeding rights,Pat Edderys done very well from Sadlers Wells,etc etc so as per usual the best of their sport are multi-millionaires,lesser ones are struggling to make it pay!Imagine asking David Beckham to drive a 300 mile round trip to play football for 90mins and be paid £140 and then pay his expenses!! A.P McCoy has done that in his career! Unbelievable difference in salaries!Unbelievable difference in personal safety! No difference in who has achieved most in their sport!
Just got a text this morning from the PJA from tomorrow the fee is £145.44 for a NH ride and £106.55 for a flat ride. You dont get 10% of prizemoney anymore and havnt for a while. The scale ot percentages does slightly alter with the type of race and its value.
Just got a text this morning from the PJA from tomorrow the fee is £145.44 for a NH ride and £106.55 for a flat ride. You dont get 10% of prizemoney anymore and havnt for a while. The scale ot percentages does slightly alter with the type of race and its value.
I’d be very interested to have a look at the prizemoney scale.
In a race with a total prize fund of £10,000 and prize money for the first four finishers, the winning connections are rewarded as follows:
Owner £4953
Trainer £628
Jockey £602
Stable Staff £323
Add those together and you get the figure given as the penalty value to the winner – in this case £6506.
So the winning jockey can be said to get approx 6% of the total prize fund, or approx 9% of the total win money.
There are minor variations on this for races with three prizes or more than four prizes, and for Pattern races, but for about 90% of races, 6% of the penalty value is close enough.
AP
How about this card in the Jobcentre ?
" Applicants will be required to report for work at the crack of dawn, where they will be expected to ride out for no pay. The job involves many, many thousands of miles criss-crossing the UK (at your own expense) to ride no-hopers in far-flung two-bob races for ungrateful (and often downright deluded) owners. You will be required to maintain your weight at up to two stone less than is good for you. This position offers no holiday or sick pay, and no pension.
Applicants must be aware that death or serious injury are very possible on a daily basis.
£140 per ride + prize money"
Any takers ?
The only thing with that monksfield is that despite the negatives you put forward and the severe restrictions in both size and weight they don’t need to put a card in the job centre do they?
No one would deny if jockeys are very successful they should be well rewarded as they are but getting £104 a ride for the dire prize money on offer this afternoon at Lingfield is too much. Everyone else has to make cutbacks in the current financial climate don’t see why middle of the road jockeys should be any different rather than getting a monkey basic for 4 or 5 mediocre rides.
It’s the owners and punters who keep the show on the road, how much must owners have paid to run for that rubbish prize money today, they must all be mad. Meanwhile the jockeys don’t do too bad despite the prize money.
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It’s the owners and punters who keep the show on the road, how much must owners have paid to run for that rubbish prize money today, they must all be mad.It could be said that is true, or alternatively that a percentage of them go in with eyes open and know they are never going to make anything from the game.
The one way owners and punters might get a better deal is to collectively decide not to get involved on current terms. Pigs might pilot jumbo jets!
Rob
This is a no-brainer. Didier Drogba gets 140,000 pounds a week for prancing about a football pitch, AND he still gets paid when hes out injured with split ends!!! Jockeys get no income when injured, unless its career-ending, and then the Injured Jockeys Fund helps out. But even that would only be enough to cover their medical costs in all probability. 3%??? Should be at least 10%.
Very few jockeys end up becoming millionaires, the vast majority are slogging it out every day, taking whatever horses they can. For a profession with such a high rate of injury and death, they are paid relatively little. Even a bad jockey is still dealing with high risk situations, but if they aren’t getting checks for their mounts they’ll be out of a job quickly. How about what happened to Secretariat’s rider Ron Turcotte-a terrible fall in 1978 left him in a wheelchair. Just this past summer, top rider Rene Douglas suffered a career-ending spinal injury. One of our top riders in Maryland and West Virginia , Travis Dunkleberger, injured his neck and was out for several months with no paycheck.
Actually jockeys do get some income when they are injured, paid out by the Professional Riders Insurance Scheme, which is funded by deductions from owners and jockeys.
The amount they receive is based on a formula that depends on the number of rides they have per season.
Personally, as an owner, I don’t begrudge the jockeys the rise they’ve just got, nor do I think the fee is too high. Their costs are the same regardless of the level of prize money and nobody is suggesting that stable staff should have their wages cut because prize money is falling. Nor do any of the other people that draw an income from owners (trainers, farriers, feed merchants, vets, saddlers, Weatherbys, etc etc) seem to be taking a cut in income.
AP
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