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i smell Rattus Norvegicus!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysReports received from an expert panel of internationally renowned equine surgeons and diagnostic imaging specialists, who reviewed Jan Brueghel’s CT scan results, indicate that the horse is currently at heightened risk of injury.
And that risk is what exactly? Why is it labelled as currently and what differentiates it from all the other horse’s scans that were deemed as an acceptable risk?
I was on at 8s and thought he was a good thing.
Something fishy with all this if you ask me. Possibly a huge hit to the bookies avoided.
It’s been happening a few years since AVD died. The European trainers just have never liked it.
As Mike says, this isn’t the first case of a European runner being supposedly huckled under the guise of additional horse welfare.
But what can you do? Boycott the race en masse? Never gonna happen.
I was wondering, in case a horse like Jan Brueghel is sold from Europe to Australia, if the ban would also apply? Or is it only because it’s trained by AOB and owned by the Lads?
The British trainers seem to be targeted with Docklands getting a second vet inspection. The lads must be seriously peed off after the river tiber nonsense at the breeders Cup. I’d just not bother with the race. Not a good look for aussie racing. Bizarre when you consider how many of their horses are bred on coolmore lines.
I don’t know and I hate to exaggerate, but this is more like a hidden ban on EUR/Coolmore bred horses.
If a horse by Galileo out of a Danehill Dancer mare who is proven at 1m6f is banned from racing in this race, he is basically banned from racing in any AUS race. And this should apply for ALL Coolmore bred horses, right? Or what am I missing in this case?Ballydoyle have lost a few in Victoria both in the Cup itself and in training . Racing Victoria are in a bit of panic mode imho and have gone bit OTT . For example Relentless Voyager was outed for Cup but is fine to race in NSW on Saturday at Rosehill . They could probably ship JB to Sydney and race him next week if they wanted and there was a suitable race , in fact if there was a race at Birdsville dustbowl he would be ok . All a bit odd , but they say since new rules MC has had no fatalities but that is the case for 99 PC flat races.
Coolmore have plenty locally trained runners in Victoria , Switzerland runs Flemington Saturday in the Coolmore Sprint , I dont think it’s Coolmore they have issue with as they are major sponsors .Awfully big mouth for a man who trained the last two horses to break down catastrophically and very publically in Australia’s biggest race. Also implying that the panel of equine vets who made the decision are not horsemen and women which is pretty rude. If we went along with what “horsemen” thought and ignored advances in veterinary techniques, we’d still be firing tendons.
“And this should apply for ALL Coolmore bred horses, right? Or what am I missing in this case?”
All of the fatalities in the race in the past decade or so were foreign trained, so it’s not surprising the spotlight is on them although I don’t know if the sample size (even if all races are included) is statistically significant. Maybe something in the breeding too- Sir Dragonet broke down a year after transferring down under so you would think his bones would have had time to remodel and get used to the training and racing surfaces. But again, don’t know what number crunching could be done to work out if Euro bred horses are more likely to break down.“Why is it labelled as currently”
Because bones, particularly, are constantly changing. Lesions that are present now might be gone in a couple of months. Tendons and ligaments too, to a slower/lesser extent. They’re not saying JB will always have an increased risk of breakdown forever.
The argument probably comes in the form of, what constitutes a lesion and what is within the bounds of normal for a growing horse. Team Coolmore presumably arguing the latter.“I was wondering, in case a horse like Jan Brueghel is sold from Europe to Australia, if the ban would also apply? Or is it only because it’s trained by AOB and owned by the Lads?”
Yes, ban applies – see Relentless Voyager example as Helcat mentioned above.
Looks like three vets passed Relentless Voyager one failed him so he was outted . Maher yard have him now so be interesting to see if and when he fronts up in Melbourne . Some big money in Sydney to keep him going though .
Ylang Ylang ruled out of the Breeders Cup now too so it’s not just an Australian thing. I can’t help thinking that “The Lads” can well afford their own scanner and could challenge these decisions if they believe they are unfair. Or perhaps they could scan their horses before entering them in big races overseas.
No doubt they could get their own scanner and probably already have one but I don’t think they could “challenge decisions”. Otherwise the whole thing would descend into a free for all. Coolmore vets thought the horse was fine but you can’t use your own vet to certify your horse’s soundness for competition, in case Mandy Rice Davis applies.
If you send a horse to the sales and the sales vet turns it down for wind, tough. If you train your Olympic eventer for 4 years and fly it to the Olympic venue (which is all done at the owner’s expense) and it gets spun by the FEI vet panel at the first inspection, tough. You put it back on the plane and go home. That’s the risk you take when you enter and everyone knows it.
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