August 31, 2021 at 16:22 #1558677
Aye Marlingford, some of this is bonkers. ID – I like the cut of your general jib, but I’m not sure the opinion of someone who just wants to watch everything on mute is particularly relevant to this thread!August 31, 2021 at 16:28 #1558678
Differing opinions make the game, the market, and the forum.
I could say I’m equally surprised by the support for ITV Racing, but actually I’m not as it takes all sorts.
Pre SIS, punters were grateful for any televised racing at all.
But nowadays, with RacingTV, ATR and the ability to watch any race via a betting site on your smart phone, punters don’t need to be quite so grateful.
So many they are more critical.
I think ITV Racing is ok – so long as you mute it!
I generally have it on in the background while I focus on the racing and betting on my iPhone but usually watch the ITV7 races on the telly.
But I wouldn’t miss it if it disappeared – I can watch all the races on other platforms.August 31, 2021 at 16:33 #1558679
As I see it, racing needs an ongoing stream of new people to be drawn into the sport to ensure that money continues to flow in i.e. to help ensure competitive and quality racing and strong and varied betting markets.
Even in this day and age, I believe TV coverage on one of the “main” channels significantly helps with this.August 31, 2021 at 16:36 #1558680
It certainly helps me, as I’m a freeview pauper.August 31, 2021 at 16:55 #1558684
“I’m not sure the opinion of someone who just wants to watch everything on mute is particularly relevant to this thread!”
This is a good point, well made, to be fair.
All I would say in response is I MIGHT turn the mute button off IF I thought there was anything worth listening to.
I shall crank up the volume when Ruby Walsh is back on come the winter and see if he provides the antidote to my cantankerous miserableness!August 31, 2021 at 17:09 #1558687
You and your mute button have got me intrigued Ian. Do you turn it up for the commentary, listen to an alternative commentary, or watch the races in silence?
I’m not taking the mick by the way! I’d struggle to follow what was going on without a commentator.August 31, 2021 at 17:41 #1558693
I am a great believer that the only way you can win as a punter long-term is to form completely independent opinions on absolutely anything.
If I could hear what they were saying I might be influenced by them or, worse still and tbh more likely, rebel against what they were saying to be different even though I agreed on that occasion.
If I watch literally everything – even the commentary – on mute I’m entirely on my own.
Just me and what I’m watching in silence and a blank piece of paper in my head to make notes on it.
That’s what I thrive on.
I only wish I could mute out the tannoy when I’m at the races too – I need to invest in some industrial standard ear plugs!August 31, 2021 at 18:23 #1558697
I can see the merit in that. But the commentary (Hoiles is excellent IMO) adds to the spectacle for me. All opinions isn’t it. I reach for mute when a Dettori love-in is imminent. It infuriates me for some irrational reason. “I Love my girl”. “I love him so much”. Nauseating fare.August 31, 2021 at 18:30 #1558699Cork All StarParticipant
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“I only wish I could mute out the tannoy when I’m at the races.”
Not just the tannoy. Lots of racecourses now have race day presenters to explain what is going on to the least experienced racegoers or the stupidest people who cannot make up their own minds.
The presenter at Plumpton one day recommended a horse as a great each way bet – in a four runner race.August 31, 2021 at 19:02 #1558702
I absolutely could not agree more, CAS.
But like TTC rightly says, “it’s all opinions, isn’t it?”August 31, 2021 at 19:38 #1558706GSPParticipant
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“I just don’t understand some of these comments. We have people on a horseracing forum (and who I presume therefore like horseracing) who think there is too much mainstream TV coverage, and would prefer that the coverage is interspersed with other things!
I agree ITV have been trying out quite a few different presenters over the past year or two, but again don’t understand why this provokes such strong reactions.
Yes, there are aspects of the coverage that could be improved, but they do a lot right with the more generalist audience they need to cater for in mind”.
I think ITV generally have a problem filling the three hours they have allocated for their programme. That’s why it’s peppered with presenters, they are there to help fill the gap.
Each to their own. Depending what frame of mind I am in I can watch the whole thing or just watch the races, but I don’t have a problem with people disagreeing with me. It could be worse, Balding may be offered a contract because it seems like Rishi there are boxes that need ticking and they are in demand.August 31, 2021 at 19:48 #1558707
Starting to feel like Persad is getting too much grief. Which “box” is the giggling Oli Bell ticking? The ‘being in the Bell family’ box?August 31, 2021 at 20:31 #1558711
IanDavies – Thanks for answering my question. All respect to you for taking that approach, and I can see the logic in it. Much like Tatling, I’d lose some of the enjoyment of watching the big races in particular without the commentary, not to mention I’d not have the memory/speed to follow every race well enough!August 31, 2021 at 20:45 #1558713
GSP – The stop-start nature of a race meeting certainly presents issues for how to cover it on TV as has been said earlier in this thread. Personally I’d prefer more analysis and focus on the horses rather than the Social Stable, but in either case I don’t think ITV are struggling to fill the airtime, and racing has plenty enough to offer to do so. In fact when they also cover a second meeting it seems like they are struggling to fit everything in.
I think the talk of box ticking does a disservice to many of the presenters, and I’m glad the presenting teams are far more diverse than they were 30 years ago. I think you are safe from Clare Balding returning though. She has long ago moved on to more mainstream fare, and I’d be quite surprised to see her return to the niche world of horseracing now.
I know Ed Chamberlin gets a fair bit of criticism on here, but he moved from the more popular field of football to horseracing because he is passionate about the sport, and I have a lot of respect for him for doing so. Lydia Hislop has been praised on here for sticking to a potentially less lucrative career path, and I think much the same could be said of Ed. I also think he’s a good anchorman, but will probably be in a minority on that point too!August 31, 2021 at 20:50 #1558714
Chamberlain is great when he is not trying to turn every big race winner in to an X-Factor type emotional story. Unfortunately that is not very often nowadays.
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