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I could name other Labour Party Centreists like Liz Kendall, but they’re less well known these days.
Vast majority of people in Britain are imo “moderates”, whether they vote Conservative, Labour, Liberal, SNP or Welsh Nationalist. You are a moderate, I’m a moderate, most TRFers are moderate.
Value Is EverythingSteve baker is a god botherer so that will be xhamster banned and public stonings for adulterers
I’m not sure about sgt bilko Wallace. Economy will sink whilst we are armed to the hilt. There will be a cock up and we will nuke Belgium
Boris ” woe is me ” speech was horrific , no apology , blaming others to the death then stating he,s staying till the autumn …..he ain’t …. I believe he,s staying on for a wedding party at Chequers …to the very end Boris first country second
God botherers, rather worryingly, tend to think they have God on their side and history is littered with catastrophic examples.
It was my biggest problem with Blair.
And advocates of xhamster will point out that you never need to take it out to dinner, to the theatre, buy it flowers, take it on holiday or remember to leave the loo seat down for it.
I think the Tory Leadership is a 3/1 the field contest right now – it’s still open.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Mogg telling channel 4 Boris was an exceptional PM yet Sunak was a poor Chancellor who along with the bank of England didn’t deal with inflation …. ******
I don’t understand the vengeful social media need for abject apology from Johnson.
I don’t like him, I’m glad he’s going, but I don’t need him to apologise to me and I don’t want to dance on his grave.
I just want him to go.
And he’s going.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Ian he played the victim ….the country is the victim …I’ll let u guess what that makes Boris
Does it matter, though?
He’s beaten – he’s going.
I guess I get less emotional about it than some.
For example, though his politics are anathema to me, I quite like Jacob Rees-Mogg.
He’s refreshingly honest about what he is – and I often find his whole manner hilarious and, I suspect, often tongue in cheek.
What was that he said at the end?
Latin?
I’d have googled it if I’d heard it clearly!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Jrm with his usual schoolboy bedsit ideological bollocks
Inflation is everywhere. Not just uk. What’s sunak supposed to do? Although I can predict his answer which could be taken apart by a chimpanzee
And might be worth suggesting to the twit that brexit has driven up wages substantially due to labour shortages. Something the extreme brexiteers such as him, advocated
Ian Mogg has defended the indefensible ….a nothing man leaving a laughable career , once the new government commences he,ll be pushed to the very back along with Patel …they need to keep the stench from the electorate
I guess I’m just less passionate about it all than you, HDLG.
I intensely disliked Johnson, but he’s gone now, so what is the point of continuing to dislike the defeated?
Social media is full of it today.
I might share the politics of some of the Johnson haters, but I don’t share their fervent desire to be vengeful about it.
Ditto Rees-Mogg.
He and I couldn’t be more different, but he’s like a character out of Ripping Yarns or one of Stephen Fry’s Melchett personas in Blackadder – I don’t take him seriously enough to dislike him, especially now he’s finished too.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Fair enough Ian , I don’t hate as hate is a wasteful emotion , I’m just want this government gone …as quickly as possible
I’ve been away and pretty much entirely disengaged from the news and everything else so I haven’t seen much of what happened in the last week or so.
I was not popping the metaphorical Champagne corks at the news, not least because in typical Johnson style it’s a sort of resignation but not immediately but it could also be brought forward so he’ll carry on for a bit. Maybe.
It’s too little, too late. The damage is done to government, the country and indeed to the Conservative party. Nobody has won here. He had to go but that was the case months ago. What changed that suddenly made his party knife him? Nothing, any one of his numerous scandals would have brought down just about anyone else on their own.
OK, she is priced up at 999/1 but why is Jo Swinson even quoted in Betfair’s Next Prime Minister market?
The next PM is not going to be a Liberal Democrat and certainly not a Liberal Democrat who is no longer an MP and whose defeat even caused some of her own party to celebrate, such was her unpopularity.
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It’s often one final small matter that swings it. Straw camel etc. that’s so often been the case
The treatment of the junior minister last week was I suspect the final straw
It has to be that, I just think that this particular camel has been able to take quite a few more straws than most others would.
They do of course have their own jobs as MPs to think about and the longer he went/goes on, the more likely they are to become electoral toast in a couple of years.
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