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I missed PMQT today. But I think the best thing for Keir to do is let Johnson carry on telling his lies. Supposedly Keir was talking about the new hospitals that Johnson promised to build and hasn’t. Now that people have finally realised what a liar he is Keir can point out all the other lies eg the space programme (remember that one!) a nuclear power station every year ( impossible) getting brexit done (it still isn’t done….)….
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to do nothing at all … Boris can’t keep his mouth shut , it’s like a political tourettes …**** ..Power stations …******* …Brexit .. Keir just needs to let keep spouting his rubbish while the backbenchers plot , the Tories look to have issues in the upcoming bi elections ( having your last MP resign for watching porn ain’t exactly going to have the old school Tory voter out to vote ) , Boris had made plenty enemies on the way up ….revenge is going to be sweet
I think there is a lot of truth in this.
Oppositions don’t win Elections (by passing themselves off as The Second Coming or whatever), governments lose them.
All the Opposition needs to do is keep quiet, look united, and a safe, reliable, honest alternative.
The Labour Party struggle with all of these, truth be told, but with the right moderate leader, a Harold Wilson, a Tony Blair, and perhaps a Keir Starmer, they do occasionally manage it.
The Tories are starting to look to me like a Party that, after 12 years in power, is riven with in fighting regarding its leadership and perhaps ready for a period in Opposition.
I don’t think they will fall to a defeat of 1997 proportions, but I now seriously doubt their ability to command a majority in 2024, in fact even winning most seats is looking more of an ask.
If they achieve neither, it opens the door to some sort of Labour/Lib Dem/Greens/SNP coalition, which actually might not be the worst thing in the world.
Forced to work together, they might all become a bit more like each other.
A bit more green, a bit less left wing, and a bit more liberal Labour Party, with a greater appreciation of the regional perspective within the UK of Scotland, might not be such a terrible thing.
And those other Parties might just mature as entities for the experience and responsibility of wielding actual Power, rather than being in perpetual Student protest-esque Opposition.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“The Tories are starting to look to me like a Party that, after 12 years in power, is riven with in fighting regarding its leadership and perhaps ready for a period in Opposition.”
I believe it is deeper than that. The Conservative Party has been fundamentally split for 50 years over Europe. It is remarkable that it has stayed together and even been in government for most of that time.
It tends to be forgotten that back in 2016, most of the parliamentary Conservative Party campaigned to remain in the EU. Even Johnson only decided to back Leave at the last moment, almost certainly out of opportunism and to annoy his long time foe Cameron than out of any conviction or principle.
Some of the parliamentary party supported Johnson in 2019 because they thought he was the most likely to achieve the only thing that matters to them: winning an election. They were right.
However, now the wheels have come off and the future looks grim, Johnson’s opponents sense blood and the chance to get their long desired revenge on him. All cheered on by a media class who hate him even more than they do.
I sometimes wonder if Johnson even cares. He has achieved what he wanted – becoming Prime Minister – and he could certainly earn more out of office, which he probably needs to pay for his chaotic private life.
I doubt he will lead the Conservative Party into the next election but I cannot see any new leader changing direction much.
Who is this media class that hate him more than his opponents? Plenty of the media is still on his side and frankly I wonder what he has to do before the Mail, Express, Sun etc turn on him. He’s got a couple of TV channels on his side too (nobody watches them but they are freely available). Of course some parts of it are against him but they always were.
‘I sometimes wonder if Johnson even cares. He has achieved what he wanted – becoming Prime Minister – and he could certainly earn more out of office, which he probably needs to pay for his chaotic private life.’
This could well be spot on.
The BBC and Sky News clearly dislike him, as does The Times and The Guardian.
Even writers at The Spectator, which he used to edit, have been putting the boot in. Presumably because they have direct experience of what he is like. Bruce Anderson sobered up enough to do write a hatchet job a few days ago.
There has been no more severe critic from the very start of his tenure than Matthew Paris in the times. As is his way, it spills over into a bit of flippant bitchiness too.
Far too much is made of the media supposed influence anyway. People buy the papers and access websites that tend to reflect their views. And how do Dan Hodges prominent columns in the mail fit in with slavish support for Boris?
I was working for The Independent at Canary Wharf the same time Johnson was at the Telegraph in the 90s.
I didn’t know him personally, but everyone knew about him – he was the Classic oafish spoilt public schoolboy buffoon, a man who could make a thousand-pound suit look like it was from Oxfam because he couldn’t even be bothered to hang it up, he valued nothing, and I can’t think of anyone who had a good word to say about him, his fellow ex-public school colleagues included.
But he had this weird aura and charisma in the eyes of some – the blind, most of us concluded – that kept propelling him forward in life.
The Tories are historically an election-winning machine and the sole reason they adopted him was they figured he was the man to put Corbyn back in his box after he’d given them a bit of a scare against May.
But the Tories will drop a liability fast – even Thatcher – and he’s toast this time.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Considering Robert Peston’s girlfriend’s accusations towards Boris, am not sure whether Peston should be seen as an unbiased political analyst for ITV.
Value Is EverythingI really don’t get this ‘aura & charisma’ that he is supposed to possess. He’s just an entitled idiot who spouts nothing but nonsense. And the former ‘clown’ persona people think he is – they’re the people who are voting for him; they’re absolutely thick as mince.
Agree with an earlier post, Labour should just keep their powder dry for as long as possible; let the Conservatives self destruct.
I don’t get it either, but he was not only elected Mayor of London he got northern working class people to vote for him in a general election.
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Nandy has thrown her weight behind the ludicrous rail strike
They don’t want to win elections do they?
There are lots of reasons why the northern working classes have turned against Labour. The 2019 election result in the “Red Wall” was more of a punch on the nose for Labour rather than a pro-Johnson vote.
Yes, I have just seen that Clive. What on earth is she thinking? Her own constituency has two large stations that lots of people rely on.
I don’t get it either. She’s made these missteps before and they are a pretty widely disliked section of the workforce.
The strikes were called before any negotiation whatsoever and she thinks that’s ok?
Seven staff at Newbury racecourse station today.
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They locked entrances too and spent time standing around chatting. Not one ticket looked at. Nothing
Frankly I would have been to see one of the lazy strike craving ***** chucked under the fast train to Plymouth. Flying mince everywhere and a good laugh for the rest of us
But It was good to see some strong abuse from the very few travelers there today but this is what they are striking for??? And this is what that idiot nandy lends her name to?
Also a local station in Richmond always has at least two ticket windows open. And absolutely no one uses them. Ever.
And the bbc reporting railway “job cuts” without mentioning that they are simply natural wastage. That’s genuinely biased reporting in my book
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