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Its looking a fair bit worse for kier tonight judging by the latest leaks just revealed
Its not a story that interests me much (the rules were Ott anyway) but that’s not the point I suppose
Not an admirer of either, but Starmer didn’t lie about his involvement in parliament
True befair, Starmer just told Johnson time and time again (including in Parliament) to resign for doing pretty much what Starmer himself has done.
The diary / memo that police now have looks damning.
Starmer kept saying the takeaway and beer were during work.
This diary apparently says it was after they’d finished work and there are reports of some joining the takeaway from outside the working group too – presumably in order to meet Starmer and Raynor.Starmer did not lie to Parliament, but only because he was never asked in Parliament.
ie Johnson faces Prime Ministers Questions in the house of commons once a week.
Had Starmer been Prime Minister or faced questions in a Shadow Leader’s Questions about Beergate in the commons he’d have lied in Parliament too.Value Is EverythingHad Starmer been Prime Minister or faced questions in a Shadow Leader’s Questions about Beergate in the commons he’d have lied in Parliament too.
Now just how do you know that?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysPeople have got used to having a PM who lies. Constantly. The latest lie is that he’s going to build a nuclear power station every year (how?). Most people don’t spend their lives lying. And Keir is one of those people. If I had to stake my life on whether or not one of two people were lying and one of them was Johnson and one of them was Starmer I know which one I’d choose.
Johnson lies all the time, but obviously the English accept this and still vote for him. I’d prefer he stays, if the alternatives are Liz Truss or Dominic Raab
Me: “Had Starmer been Prime Minister or faced questions in a Shadow Leader’s Questions about Beergate in the commons he’d have lied in Parliament too”.
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Purwell: “Now just how do you know that”?
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Do you really think Starmer would – outside parliament – lie about the takeaway / beer being in the middle of a work session… and then gone to Parliament and told the truth?
Effectively standing up in Parliament and saying:
“Oh I lied to the press and the people of Britain but that for some reason doesn’t count. I’ll tell you – Parliament – the truth… That I Sir Kier Starmer and my deputy Angela Raynor (sorry we lied about her not being there) were at a pre-arranged get together in a room – yes pre-arranged and inside – eating and drinking after -yes that’s after work – including with invited guests. Sorry, I know I continuously insisted Boris Johnson should resign for being at a pre-arranged after work indoor event with invited guests, but I am a massive hypocrite. Am telling you all the truth now in parliament, so that makes it ok doesn’t it”…
Or do you think it would be far more likely he’d have just continued the lies inside Parliament before the truth was known?
Value Is EverythingIf you want to see the real Starmer try asking him ….
Have you and Labour accepted the result of the 2016 referendum and will not attempt to reverse it if Labour get into Government?
Define a woman?
Or even explain what the party’s policies are?
….then watch him squirm as he waffles on and on and on saying absolutely nothing of consequence.
Where I was born and raised should make me a natural Labour supporter but gave up on them a long time ago with Blair being the final straw.In a recent survey conducted around major UK cities the inability of people to recognise the Labour shadow cabinet tells it’s own story.How many can you name and their title?
Personally I wouldn’t touch Starmer or Labour with a forty foot pole!
good luck to allUnfortunately I can name the people in the cabinet and it’s like a line up of Fred Karnos circus….As for Keir and brexit he’s made it quite clear that his job is to make brexit work. Those of us that refused to acknowledge the result of the referendum did so because we saw the lies that the win was based on. Just look at Ireland now. That wasn’t project fear but hard reality. I don’t think that ‘man of the people’ Rees Mogg has come up with many (if any) brexit benefits in his new job. Oh and did anyone realise that the hugely expensive festival of brexit is actually happening as we speak? Thought not. A festival needs something to celebrate.
“I thought the Tory press wanted to move on from all this”
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In other words: Labour went on and on and on about “Partygate”.
Now Labour has something to hide, they’d rather everyone “move on”.To be fair, Guardian TV (BBC News) have moved on; ie doing their best to hush “Beergate” up.
Value Is EverythingGuardian TV (BBC News)
You really have no idea, do you. Channel 4 is the most anti-Conservative news producer, which is why the Tories are trying to change their financial structure.
The BBC have been trying to appease the Tories for years, in order to stave off the same threat.
‘To be fair, Guardian TV (BBC News) have moved on; ie doing their best to hush “Beergate” up.’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61369911
This story, with a headline that is Dominic Raab’s opinion, is visible on the BBC’s home page and news site without having to scroll down.
You and anyone else can assert that the BBC is biased as much as you like, that doesn’t make it so.
“You really have no idea, do you. Channel 4 is the most anti-Conservative news producer”,
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Oh I do know that very well, Glad. LOL
BBC News is The Guardian TV News. Pro Labour and Liberal and anti-Conservative.
Channel 4 News is The Mirror TV News. Pro Labour and even more anti-Conservative.
Value Is EverythingIf you look again Richard…
I said The “Guardian TV News”.
Your link to the BBC news website goes some way to prove my point.
It used to be the other way around twenty odd years ago, but these days BBC TV News do their best to either hide bad news for Labour and Liberals or slant it more in their favour.Current headline on TV is “Labour fighting back over Beergate”.
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