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Keir Starmer will be in that slightly less vulnerable position that the likes of media like Beth Rigby are in inasmuch as neither Opposition nor media made the rules.
But it’s embarrassing and undermining nonetheless.
Broadly speaking, I think Starmer has been the best Labour Opposition leader since Tony Blair – and I’d far rather have him as Prime Minister than Boris Johnson, who I despise.
But Starmer doesn’t seem to have won over the public despite a host of PMQs takedowns of Johnson and these Council Election results, while poor, aren’t even the worst for the Tories since they came to power in 2010.
I could never vote Lib Dem after 2010, where they claimed to be more left-wing than Labour then formed a coalition with the Tories instead.
But right now I think depriving the Tories of an outright majority is the best Labour can hope for and I’m thinking even winning most seats to form a minority government might be beyond Starmer’s reach.
But then I am objective.
Unlike GT, a broadly intelligent fellow regarding racing analysis, but a man who ingeniously removes his entire brain before discussing politics with nary a modicum of objectivity and a healthy dose of blind bias.
It’s a tremendous feat of surgery, really, and reminds me of the “Spock’s Brain” episode in the original Star Trek.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"This is a pretty good analysis of Labour and Starmer:
You don’t seem to understand Richard.
Conservatives can think “Beergate” a small issue, makes no difference.
It is a small issue but Starmer has made it a big issue with what he said about Boris and Sunak.
The point is Starmer must treat his own misdeameanor in the same way as he treated Boris.
By resigning.The “hypocrisy” is all on Labour’s side.
Value Is EverythingIt’s something that no one to my knowledge has ever mentioned but I’m sure that Keirs accent goes against him. If he has a Scottish accent or even ( heaven help us) an Eton one I’m sure that people would warm to him more and even listen more to the context of what he says. Imo he is a thoroughly decent person that truly wants to do what’s best for the people of this country and not what’s best for himself or his rich mates. People that I know that have had dealings with him are impressed by his knowledge of business. It was my eldest child’s birthday on Tuesday. She was born on the day that Thatcher was elected for the first time because I remember saying to the doctors who were stitching me up ‘hurry up I need to get to the polling station. From that day onwards I resolved to do everything I could to make this country a better place for my children and I cried on her birthday at the thought of what this country had become.
Kiers accent is fine but his lawyer background has given him that somewhat deliberate inflexible manner. Also In his dealings. The excellent gavin barwell account published last year was very harsh oh starmers dreadful lack of big picture with the brexit negotiations. Legal people are shocking at big pictures. And god do I experience that in business
It has nothing * to do with the views because the same author was highly complimentary about Len mcclusky of all people..amongst others (and he loathed Boris too)
I don’t dislike him and would be fine with him as leader but there’s something in his manner that he won’t be able to shake off
Blackford has a scottish accent and he’s the most boring git imaginable
“If he has a Scottish accent or even ( heaven help us) an Eton one I’m sure that people would warm to him more”
It is, in my life experience, a sad fact that the average person (hence largely unsuccessful materially in life) is far more comfortable with the idea that there is an elite they could never aspire to than a path to material gain for literally anyone if they work hard enough and are intelligent enough.
Meritocracy in operation makes lazy, stupid, people feel lazy and stupid and they don’t like that.
Far better to have a Boris Johnson – he’s different to “the likes of us” we can’t “rise above our station” – in charge than someone who illustrates here needn’t be a “likes of us” and no one has “stations” they cannot rise above.
I might be wrong, but I’ve seen legion examples of this in life – a million times more resentment to success from he exact same start as themselves than towards the privileged born into wealth and power.
That’s IMO part of what Starmer is up against – the ex-Red Wall voters would rather have a “toff” than a “clever clogs” in charge as the former re-enforces their preconceptions, makes them feel less insecure and less of a failure.
It could be even worse.
Imagine Angela Rayner as PM – there would be literally no excuse for anyone on a Council Estate claiming benefit any more not to get off their backside and strive to better themselves.
They wouldn’t like that one bit!
No overall majority, Tories largest party (just) in 2024 – you read it here first.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“That’s IMO part of what Starmer is up against – the ex-Red Wall voters would rather have a “toff” than a “clever clogs” in charge as the former re-enforces their preconceptions, makes them feel less insecure and less of a failure”.
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Or it could be the people of those red wall seats feel betrayed by Labour – and particularly Starmer – over Brexit… And they’ve done nothing to reverse that feeling.
Most voters don’t give a xxxx about the accent or what college the leader went to. Labour tries to make it an issue which goes down well with its middle-class members.
Could it possibly be the policies (or in Labour’s case the lack of them) in these seats that matter?…But am sure you know best
Value Is EverythingThe wheels on the bus go round and round,
round and round,
round and round,I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysSo what are the wonderful Conservatives policies that are currently making this country such a great place to live in?
Moehat, I have never been – and never will be – a Conservative voter.
And I would say Labour is the only way I will vote for the rest of my life.
But I would be the first to admit the Tories are the natural party of government in the UK.
In both my lifetime and adult lifetime they have been in power most of the time and the only breaks were when very moderate Labour leaders in Harold Wilson and Tony Blair fought elections on Labour’s behalf.
Rich people mostly vote Tory, those aspiring to be rich mostly vote Tory and many of the so-called “working classes” identify more readily with the Tories than with Labour.
A lot of the working classes are Brexit through and through, regardless of the economic consequences, and although the Pandemic was originally manifestly mismanaged, death – like unemployment – only affects the dead (and their loved ones) the same way unemployment only affects the unemployed and their loved ones.
The vaccine roll out benefitted all and started to restore the government’s fortunes, ditto the initial economic rebound.
And Partygate has been overplayed – the cynical public expect those in charge to break their own rules.
The biggest danger to the Tories isn’t the Pandemic, or Partygate, it’s things that affect all, namely the cost of living crisis.
The economy, as it invariably does, will determine the fate of this government in 2024.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"That’s Politics Purwell
They go round and round
and round and round until
one suggests a pub another a motel and the bus finally stops and then the bell sounds and they all file in and cast there views on this ground and that ground, then someone says What the Hell, Who’s getting in the next round ?
And they’re throating it down
in the old Tavern in the town
Then someone proposes a toast
Let’s drink to the normals not forgetting the bloody Crown !Never understand why people can’t carry out quick checks before making statements like “most rich people vote conservative”
Lazy sweeping statements
Look it up. Voting by class grouping
My take is that labour was so often represented in tbe media by the likes of Owen Jones and various other public schoolboy patronising teenage prats waffling on about transgender rights that hoards of voters went “no ******* way”
Owen Jones certainly doesn’t represent me! He’s an idiot. And I emailed Dianne Abbot yesterday and told her what I thought of her ( that’ll teach her!)
Owen Jones and Dianne Abbot don’t represent me either, Moehat.
In fact, the only positive thing I can say about the Labour Party is that it isn’t the Conservative Party.
No Overall Majority is 1.85 at Betfair Exchange – that’s my idea of the best-case scenario in 2024 unless the economy gets a lot worse.
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