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Yes, am sure SOME Brexiteers didn’t know what Brexit was going to be Purwell; just that you didn’t say “some”, just “they”.
Am also sure SOME Remainers didn’t realise the EU were / are increasingly federalist. ie The EU is far different than the “Common Market” we voted for in the first place.
Value Is EverythingJust having a laugh at your expense Glad’, sorry couldn’t resist.
Value Is EverythingTROY111 ‘no one deported that’s illegally crossed the channel with the help of coast guard and RNLI’.
Just about all this is untrue. It’s not illegal to cross the channel to seek asylum. And the attack on the coast guard and RNLI is appalling. All countries have an obligation to help people in trouble at sea. The coast guard and RNLI save people without any regard to where they come from and put their own lives at considerable risk to do this. They are real heroes.
Spot on Ken.
RNLI will benefit from my will for those very reasons. Value Is EverythingIts the mantra that we will be “worse off” under Brexit. Finger in the air figures produced by cvivil servants
And that the City would be hit hardest of all
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/26/boost-post-brexit-britain-firms-focus-city/
This is a bit inconvenient then
And an industry I know well and we are world leaders in, Advertising, had its strongest ever year last year in the uk
Add to that the news of more electric car manufacturing investment (Bentley) then those craving to be ruled by Brussels and/or think the Uk is “useless at everything”
will be crying into their pillowsI was not a mad keen brexiter but the downsides of leaving the bloated lazy “organisation” have always been massively overplayed
TROY111 stopped being funny – if he ever was – the instant he started making racist remarks.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Where I do know “helping illegals” should NOT stop is in the middle of the English Channel leaving people drowning.
“Illegals” are treated too well in the UK, or rather our legal process takes far too long.
There should be a camp in France for these people to go – financed partly by the UK – to apply for living in the UK… And we should take more than we do now.
In return, any illegals who’ve come over or been picked up in the channel should be returned to France or wherever they crossed from… And as a result of trying to come in illegally should lose any chance of living here legally both now and in the future.
This would stop the incentive for illegals to cross and therefore stops the death.
The EU has a very similar agreement with Turkey but the other way around. Turkey keeping “illegals” on their side of the border before being processed through the system for the chance to live in the EU. So if that is good enough for the EU then the EU should do the same for us.
Value Is EverythingI agree with Ginger over the common market and EU and this is totally missed by many (especially the “despite Brexit” BBC)
There is a huge difference between the two and I would have voted remain if it was more geared towards a trading block and no more
What we have is 40000 “workers” and two parliaments, doing what?
the nature of an unaccountable bloated beast is always to empire build rather than roll back powers. Staying in the EU would simply have resulted in year after year of being in a minority of one (perhaps with Denmark and Poland sometimes) voting against yet more power drifting away.
We should be opening up to more immigration and please lets have people that desperately want to make a life here
We have a labour shortage FFS
Priti Patel and her tickling of racist coffin dodgers dribbling into their cheap gin and tonics in some dilipated Conservative club with sticky carpets in Bognor isn a vile disgrace
Clive how can
We have a labour shortage FFS, with so many unemployed and far too many claiming or trying to claim PIP.
Ian, why is every word a racist remark?Lot of silence about Putin here.love it
The hard left dont like being reminded that when they shoot their loads over a tatty photo of putin , farage and trump are doing exactly the same
The facist right dont like to be reminded that corbyn and his creepy mates are their freinds and bedfellows
I don’t think people broadly on the Left should feel any more connection with (or embarrassment about) Vladimir Putin than Jacob Rees-Mogg needs to feel aligned historically to Genghis Khan.
There’s the Left and the Right and there’s the Authoritarian and the Libertarian.
Politics, like all of us, is….complicated.
Political extremists tend to favour authoritarianism as it’s the only means of imposing extremism on a predominantly moderate human race.
But on both Right and Left both have this fanciful idea about the State – as Lenin – put it – “withering away” once everyone realises what a jolly good idea a fascist or communist society is.
It would be funny if it wasn’t so alarming that some people believe so passionately, indeed fanatically, in such things.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"You don’t find much support from the liberal or conservative centre for authoritinarism Ian. In fact you won’t find any
I don’t agree that its simply because its the last resort “only means”. Its about their desire for control and contempt for the individual. The far left is dominated by posh public schoolboys who believe they know whats best for the oiks
It spilled out this week with Drakefords underreported ranting against “individual freedoms” in a radio interview
The far left is dominated by posh public schoolboys who believe they know whats best for the oiks
Agree with that clive but to be honest you could replace the words “the far left” with “the House of Commons” and whilst “the oiks” generally remain supine who can blame them for thinking that?
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