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Why do you find it boring, Ginger? The best horses are running against each other, should it matter who trains them?
Perhaps a better way of deciding the trainers title with an element of both winners and prize money is to score each race won e.g Class 5 over the jumps would score 1 point, Class 4 2 points, Class 3 3 points etc etc. How would that have panned out this season?
I think I suggested this somewhere else a while back.
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
To be fair, the trainers title has added a bit to the season’s end. However, don’t be fooled. That battle is the only reason why we are seeing the likes of El Fabiolo turning up at Sandown. It would not happen any other year… And Sandown’s gain will be Punchestown’s pain anyway.
If at all possible Mullins avoids taking on his best horses with his best horses… Which is fair enough because it makes complete sense for him – I’d do the same in his position. However, it would be best “for Racing” if they weren’t all in the same stable and therefore met more often.
It must be difficult to encourage more (new) owners to get involved in Racing. At the moment if I were a prospective owner with good money to spend on a top quality racehorse, I’d be thinking it’s just not worth it because of the Mullins dominance. I can only see fewer owners getting involved.
…And – as far as which trainer wins the “X” at Cheltenham is concerned, yes it is boring because you know who is by far the most likely because he’s got most of the best horses.
Don’t get me wrong – I enjoy the Racing (even when Mullins wins) – I just find the fact Mullins wins most of the good races boring and believe his great achievement (and it is “great”) will not be for the good of Racing (as a whole) in Britain or Ireland.
Value Is EverythingI would suggest that to win the trainers championship,you have to train 50 winners plus in the UK,under that no matter how much prize money you win you cannot win it.
Oh & odds on shots do not count towards the winners total wins outside of Graded races.
To stop Mullins as he has done this week sending his horses to small tracks like Perth to hoover up prize money.Mullins has won the British Trainers Championship once. So what? Aidan O’Brien has won the Flat championship on numerous occasions without anyone suggesting it should be changed.
I have already mentioned O’Brien.
Changes to the rules just to stop Mullins winning. Bonkers. The others just need to do better.
Pathetic, some of the suggestions for changing how the trainers championship is decided are more appropriate for April Fools Day. Willie Mullins should be applauded.
There’s a fair chance he may not have won it if Aintree hadn’t turned their fences into upturned dandy brushes but now they’ve totally ruined the race I hope Mullins and Elliot have even more horses in the race next year.
Mullins has won because he had nine winners at Cheltenham and the winners of the Grand National In Name Only and the Scottish National.
I suppose he will have a lot of Cheltenham winners next year but he is not guaranteed nine. Last year I think he only had six. And Henderson ought to be more competitive next year.
This year he happened to have a well handicapped chaser which was suited by the way the National was run and got a great ride. None of those factors is guaranteed next season.
Unless he starts having a lot more runners in the regular British season, he will not even be favourite to win it next time.
The idea we should overhaul the whole Trainers Championship because of one year is ridiculous.
Of course it would be good if there was a bit more competition. But it sounds like some people resent success.
Not quite sure why offering up an alternative way of deciding the trainers championship is ‘pathetic’.
Some might say it’s ‘pathetic’ that prize money alone is the deciding factor when one trainer holds a disproportionate number of the Grade 1 aces in the pack and it’s heavily weighted for just two Festival meetings consisting of 7 days worth of racing in a whole season.
Paul Nicholls has a 24% win rate this season and Mullins 17% in the UK. Nicholls has won 5 times the amount of races this season than Mullins in the UK.
The paradox is I would like the jockeys championship to be based on a scoring system much as I suggested for the trainers championship. Hughes is a decent enough journeyman jockey but barely rides in higher grade races. Again if jockeys scored higher for winning higher grade races would we see a more interesting outcome? It might offer up more betting opportunities.
If football league tables were 1 point for a win and nothing for a loss it would soon get pretty boring. Basically that’s the jockeys championship.
I bet on horses, not trainers (most of time), although i do admit i’m a sucker for a Channon runner
Last Saturday in particular
The things I want most in life are the things that I can't win.
“Changes to the rules just to stop Mullins winning. Bonkers. The others just need to do better.”
Yes some of the stuff being put forward here is quite frankly ludicrous
And I said that as politely as I could
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