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  • #228932
    Anonymous
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    It’s one thing a horse needing cut or going of soft ground but going on Heavy is a different ball game.

    I’ve looked at Rayeni again and he just loves soft/heavy ground.

    Oxx will be over the moon with flooding forcast around Kildare there isn’t a hope in hell of this ground not being Heavy by Saturday. so I am with Myles here and I grabbed all the 4/1 I could get.

    I have severe doubts now if Meehan will even send Delegator. He’s showed too much toe off good surfaces and might have got away with softish or even soft ground but surely Heavy will have put an end to any chance he had.

    Hope to hell I’m right :wink:

    Rayeni 4/1 looks the wisest choice.

    #228968
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Sorry, see my thread for my trends analysis on this race

    #229225
    Avatar photoGoldikova
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    I’ve had an e/w on Recharge at 9’s. His auld maw liked a good auld slog and had an excellent record in testing conditions in good contests. He beat intense focus by 1 length when getting 3 pounds lto, and is capable of fighting for a place in my book.

    #229396
    colinf
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    I never thought Rayeni would be up to winning a Guineas ……… a 2 or 3 length defeat of the likes of Lieberman and Gluteus Maximus reads poorly and he kept leaning to his right when winning at Leopardstown.

    #229407
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Final decs:

    (3:45) 114D Boylesports.com Irish 2,000 Guineas
    (Group 1) €228,500.00 ( 1m – 3yo )

    1 1 Delegator (GB) (BJMeehan (in GB)) – JPSpencer ……………. 9,00
    2 9 Drumbeat(107) (APO’Brien) – JAHeffernan ………….. 9,00
    3 2 Fergus McIver(105) (JSBolger) – KJManning(B) ……….. 9,00
    4 8 Hail Caesar(101) (APO’Brien) – CO’Donoghue ……….. 9,00
    5 6 Mastercraftsman(120) (APO’Brien) – JPMurtagh ……………. 9,00
    6 4 Rayeni (JMOxx) – MJKinane……………… 9,00
    7 7 Recharge(110) (KPrendergast) – CDHayes ……………… 9,00
    8 5 Soul City (RHannon (in GB)) – RHughes………………. 9,00
    9 3 Viceroy Of India (USA) (APO’Brien) – SMLevey………………. 9,00

    #229422
    RedRiot
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    I’m going to take a small punt on Fergus McIver who looks over priced and has struggled at longer on testing, but may have a turn of fortune over the mile, I’ll need luck for sure but still gets the nod over Intense Focus and Vocalised.

    And very small double with Luminous Eyes who has been deserted by Pat Smullen, Mick Kinane gets the ride, has done all her best on soft.

    #229465
    tenbob
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    my poins rating

    140 delegator
    139 mastercraftsman
    135 drumbeat
    126 fergus mciver
    125 soul city
    125 rayeni
    118 hail ceasar
    118 recharge
    111 viceroy of india

    will back delegator to win
    and drumbeat ew

    #229560
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    I still maintain that, on racecourse performance, Mastercraftsman is much more likely to be going on at the end of the race than Delegator, and expect the AOB horses to set the pace approppriately.

    #229562
    thedarkknight
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    Agreed RH

    I think Delegator will get swamped on this ground. I’d be genuinely surprised if he won.

    Mastercraftsman looks the obvious one, but a shock wouldn’t be out of the question – some rag of staying boat might beat the lot of them. 8)

    #229587
    Avatar photoHimself
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    I get the impression that people are grasping around in the dark in an effort to find the winner of this difficult to solve, tricky contest.

    And no wonder. :?

    Why not just watch the race, like me. :)

    It is not imperative to have a bet or throw your money away.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #229603
    clivexx
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    Agreed Himself

    Had an eye on Recharge but hes drifted alarmingly this morning

    I am a little suprised they are running Delegator. Theres a good long season ahead for top mile performers, so why today on dreadful ground?

    If he does win (and i like the horse and hope that he does), then he will demonstrate that adaptability that marks out the very best

    But definately not a race to bet on.

    #229604
    deltaman
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    I’m going to take a small punt on Fergus McIver who looks over priced and has struggled at longer on testing, but may have a turn of fortune over the mile

    Good e/w bet IMO……placed on going in small fields.

    #229613
    davidjohnson
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    Happy to back Delegator at what looks by far the wrong price. I’d have him more like a 9/4 chance even in taking account of the ground.

    #229615
    Avatar photoIan
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    I’m another one leaving the race alone. Delegator and Mastercraftsman are both very vulnerable to me if I were a bookie I’d be trying to get those two.

    Rayeni a tentative selection.

    #229650
    halfwaytoheaven
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    What a fantastic performance.

    Mastercraftsman had the race set up for him and stormed away there.

    #229651
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Wallace, just caught yours, well put, except

    Mastercraftsman

    is to
    the Curragh, what i am to Ante-Post betting! Come on Master took the 3/1
    its redemption time! Delegator will be running on empty inside the last 50yds if the ground turns soft, whilst the Master will be powering up the hill
    just watch the Master inside the last 100yds at Newmarket, he was just getting going!

    The stuff of legends!

    #229652
    Avatar photoGerald
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    Your last winning bet, as you have now given up.

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