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Seen on the Godolphin website suggesting Cinderella’s Dream will come here so have taken the 20/1.
Value Is EverythingHave also followed you in with Regal Jubilee, Darren. With the Gosdens being in unusually good form this early in the season.
Value Is EverythingWell done getting 20’s Cinderellas Dream Ginge I just missed that and have 16’s but happy with that. She has a decent chance in this and showed her professionalism when winning at Meydan Festival earlier in the year when Buick lost his irons and her saddle slipped up her neck and she still romped home by a distance…that definitely gets my vote for ride of the year for the TRF Awards.
Jac
I do however have 33/1 for See The Fire (page 1) who is now 8’s but only a Win bet it was a freebet and I recklessly put it all on.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Nothing reckless about win only, Jac. Vast majority of my bets are win only to get a better price on betfair. See The Fire’s dam remains my biggest priced winner @ 179/1 (or was it 169/1, memory isn’t what it was). I had a little bit matched a few days ago for See The Fire, but nothing like 33/1. Balding and Appleby as well as the Gosdens are in excellent form, which is a big plus this time of year
.Value Is Everything“This not a good race to previous years and think she suprise people.”
You got the Moyglare winner and the 1st and 3rd in the Fillies Mile. How more good is it meant to be? ;o)
The Moyglare winner and Fillies Mile first and third may well improve, Mike; but their form as it stands is still some way below the average 1000 Guineas winner… ie As it stands Fallen Angel beating Verspetilio can not be rated as highly as many Moyglare winners. Ditto Ylang Ylang who also may need further to be at her best this year… And Porta Fortuna’s Chevely Park doesn’t read well either
The one filly within 7 lbs of an average Guineas winner is none of those. Ramatuelle’s splitting of Vandeek and River Tiber in the Morny. But she pulled far too hard in her 7f trial so is a probable non-stayer.
If Opera Singer were in this field she’d be a very short price.
Value Is Everything“ie As it stands Fallen Angel beating Verspetilio can not be rated as highly as many Moyglare winners”
We don’t know that as the 2nd hasn’t run since. The 4th beaten nearly 6 lengths behind won the Cheveley Park and Ylang Ylang who was further behind has won the Fillies mile. It’s right up there form wise against what she faces Sunday with Opera Singer a NR. She doesn’t have many fans on this thread so I’ll just have to be ‘the lone ranger’ cheering her home Sunday :o)
John Gosden record in the 1000 Guineas in the last 20 runnings…
Runners 14
Wins 0
Placed 3Minding was the only really good winner we’ve had in the past decade probably. Love was good on the day too but beat a dreadful field and she herself improved for going up in trip. We’ve had some alright winners in that time but none of them have really been able to step outside their own sex and give the boys a fright. The last three winners have been pretty ordinary.
I think Karl Burke has a fantastic chance of taking this whatever the weather does. If its decent Fallen Angel should probably be favourite but if it rains he’s got another good contender in Darnation. Ylang Ylang looked well beat in that Fillies Mile before See The Fire decided to take herself and Shuwari for a sideways journey across the Rowley mile. That’s not just my opinion either she hit 160 in running on Betfair. She might be good enough like Love was because the field may not be up to much and then improve for the Oaks.
The three outsiders I like are
Elmalka
Should’ve won the Fred darling on only her 2nd start. Is very strong in the final furlong over 7f so should relish a mile.
Regal Jubilee
Has that vital C&D form from last autumnAnd if the rain did come darnation is massively overpriced and would surely go off 16s-20s not 40s
Also like many others I’m on See the Fire antepost and am praying she has grown up over the winter. If she has I can see her going very close.
We are very similar FF.
I was already on CINDERELLA’S DREAM and Regal Jubilee, but have now laid the latter back at the same price because I don’t think there will be any “soft” in the going. Have now backed FALLEN ANGEL. There is a chance she’d prefer softer. Slightly rounded action but nothing major and the impressive Sweet Solera victory was (looking at Racing Post Standard) quite similar to today’s Newmarket. She has the best form of those likely to stay, still has a bit to find to win an average Guineas, but this field appears (on paper) below average. Her main rivals have bigger question marks. Ylang Ylang and See The Fire may not have enough speed – may want softer going at a mile. Although at the price of the latter might warrant a saver. Ramatuelle has the form but may not stay. Dance Sequence may well be a miler, but wandered last time out and has yet only won the Oh So Sharp (Group 3) by a head. I know the stable are in good form and they obviously like her so probably will improve… But on form in the book is very similar to some 4 times the price. Including stable companion Cinderella’s Dream who’s been winning the same races as previous Guineas winner Mawj in Dubai – even without tack! Have also taken 30 about ELMALKA. Didn’t finish far behind in the Fred Darling despite having only the one run beforehand. Her inexperience here could be a disadvantage but also a reason there could be abnormal improvement. Varian stable going well too. Ditto Hannon’s Star Style. Not many put as good a performance on debut at Newbury. But have missed the price. If race times indicate it’s good-firm I’ll be interested in the Cheveley Park winner / Breeders Cup second Porta Fortuna. Just feel this mile may need a bit more stamina she may not have. Darnation’s form is better than a 45/1 shot, but maybe needed the rain to come today, not yesterday.So:
Fallen Angel 4/1
Cinderella’s Dream 20/1
Elmalka 29/1
possible saver See The Fire 9/1Value Is EverythingThe one I can’t have at all is ramatuelle
She’s never looked anything other than a sprinter and will surely pull her chance away
After today the jury is also very much out on these justifys training on
So she’ll probably bolt in now
I like Fallen Angel she always finds more when challenged and I like her attitude, but I just can’t back 4 horses in this so have added Dance Sequence to my final 3.
See The Fire – 33/1
Cinderella’s Dream – 16/1
Dance Sequence – 5/1Hoping for a change of luck as the last 2 days have been hitting the bar, particularly Dutch Decoy who just couldn’t hang on. Will be there tomorrow and if See The Fire wins you’ll hear me shouting the house down.
Enjoy the race, I always prefer 1000 Guineas Day to the hyped up 2000 Guineas and well done again Ginger for
a superb winner in Notable Speech who defied all the stats today…can Appleby strike again and if so which filly will it be. Not taking any chances on that if he is to pull off the Guineas double. JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I like a Godolphin “second string”, Cinderalla’s Dream.
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