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Calm your nnickers mate they’re a great bunch of lads but we do get a few spammers on here but very seldom. Can’t say I know of anyone coming on saying they are a pro gambler who were genuine so you can’t blame the guys if they are immediately suspicious.
Don’t mind Ginger he’s a great guy he but he cross examines everyone as he thinks he’s Elliot Ness and the untouchables, rolled into one, reincarnated
Can’t say I know of anyone coming on saying they are a pro gambler who were genuine so you can’t blame the guys if they are immediately suspicious.
Hi There…
Well you can’t blame a guy for defending his honour
As I said, I just wanted some polite discussion as it can be very lonely doing things all on your own. Please remember that I didn’t state I just invest in horse racing… I do have other strings to my bow that keep the wolves from the door.
Are you seriously saying that there are no other members of this forum who make a living from gambling? I find that hard to believe… or are you saying that no one admits to being a gambler like I did. Having read my initial post again, I guess I maybe shouldn’t have made such a bold statement…. but I believe that honesty is the best policy and of speaking my mind.
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Oh I think you will find I am good at that along with afew others I could mention
I honestly don’t know who works for a living and who doesn’t on here but there are some guys who appear to make good money out of the game.
Welcome to the forum, it matters not a jot to me whether or not you’re being honest or not. Good luck, but i was just wondering how you’re gonnae be a pro gambler when you have a dwindling account. Low finance dosen’t mean you’ve lost because you haven’t started yet – but what are you gonnae start off with ?
He didn’t say he was bankrupt, just a dwindling bank account. Bill Gates might say the same about his finances having lost a few billion this year, but dwindling to him still leaves him with a fair few bob.
Agreed, Graeme. Wouldn’t it be great if in a year’s time Caledon informs us that he’s hit the jackpot and can afford to retire? Then we could all boast that we supported him from day one. Who knows, he might even cross our palms with silver, in which case, I say "Caledon is The Man" and I knew it all along.
Cheers
Ken
(Just jesting, Cal)Five years out of the game? You could struggle you know.
You are dam’ right there. For the best part of 20 years (circa 1982 to 2002) I well and truly turned my back on punting and got on with earning a living the generally accepted orthodox way. I just could no longer bring myself to have a bet and have to pay the taxman a then 8p in every £ for the off course privilege of doing so. At the time the only way of getting that particular monkey off my back was by not having a bet at all. After a while it got very much like giving up smoking, You miss it to begin with but as the months and the years roll by you find others things to take its place.
What drew me back into the fold some 7 years ago was the coming together of 3 factors…
1: Freedom to bet without having to pay the taxman directly for the privilege.
2: The arrival of the Internet and all the accompanying opportunities that have come with it.
3: And finally and most importantly of all, no longer being a wage slave, for now I’ve got free time to burn.But like West Derby Ken hinted, I was terribly ring rusty to begin with, it took me a good couple of years before I got my horseracing punting cap back on straight again. Fortunately, I recognised this right from the restart and even to this day I refuse to get carried away with my punting endeavours. I daresay after 20 years of betting abstinence combined with my advancing years, experience has taught me that punting like life, isn’t a race. It’s about negotiating a way from one end to the other no matter how much time one is ultimately given to do it.
Nice one, Pod. May you have many, healthy years of controlled, enjoyable gambles ahead.
KenHi pod,
Good post and I appreciate the "ring rusty" scenario but it can’t affect me because my method is based on pure mathematical fact and in my horse racing world a bet either IS or ISN’T with no external influnces to think about… so with just that to consider I have nothing new to get up to speed with which induce error. It should be the same as it was from day one of my career…. I have also checked the last 5 years of data whilst waiting to restart my method and no significant change has been detected.
Your statement… "punting like life, isn’t a race. It’s about negotiating a way from one end to the other no matter how much time one is ultimately given to do it." hits all the bells for me and I have set a 10 year plan again and this will provide a steady weekly income and hopefully enough to take another wonderful 5 years off again. People who try to achieve things quickly very rarely succeed and give racing tipsters a reason to live. Greed is always the downfall if that is your main purpose in life.
Everyone will be very sceptical Caledon but welcome.
Will give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the welcome…. but
Sceptical about what?
I don’t have a system to sell, I don’t offer tips and I certainly wont be giving off the cuff advice to all and sundry.
So I don’t see what there is to be sceptical or indeed give me the benefit of the doubt on. Or is it that you are saying that what I do can’t be done?
As for your comment on my dwindling bank account, with no income for 5 years I guess yours would to! I have used my winnings to a point where they must be replenished… hence the return to old ways.
Think you’ve got me wrong Caledon. Sorry if my welcome seemed half-hearted.
Of course I am sceptical when someone comes on here and anounces on their first post he is a pro gambler. Without any explanation of how you do it. Yet appeared to want other TRFers who make a profit to share their knowledge with you.
There have been many newbies in the past who describe themselves in a similar way. So yes I am sceptical for now, but hopefully given time, my scepticism will disappear. Since my post you have said a few things that are encouraging.
What made you give up investing entirely? If I had made so much money by this method, I would at least keep betting to a smaller degree. To maintain my way of life. But each to their own.
I myself am good enough with my "investing" on race horses to show a profit, but would not call myself a pro gambler (yet). So yes I know it can be done. But as I have not proven that to anyone on TRF, I can not blame anyone if they do not believe me.
Oh and, don’t take too much notice of Fist, we have a love TO hate relationship.
Mark
Value Is EverythingHmmmm,
Just seen your comment that you do not do this pro-gambling by ratings or form.
How else can it be done Caledon?
And has this mathematical approach got anything to do with true odds / the table of odds and chances?
In my opinion any successful punter has to study the form and find the value selection/s. Do you know a different way?
May be you can give us an idea of the way you come to your selection without ratings or form analysis.
Mark
Value Is EverythingGreetings Caledon, being the Ante-Post King, i base my judgement purely
on what i see on the racecourse and i like to think i am a good judge of a
horse! Mathematics have never been an issue in regard to what i think could and could not win a race, i would imagine official ratings are involved
in your calculations, but however you come to your final conclusion good
luck to you! This is a tough forum to hold your own on and many on here
know their stuff, so just out of interest whats going to win the 2000gns?
Does your "Formula" ever dissagree with your gut reaction?Hmmmm,
Just seen your comment that you do not do this pro-gambling by ratings or form.
How else can it be done Caledon?
And has this mathematical approach got anything to do with true odds / the table of odds and chances?
In my opinion any successful punter has to study the form and find the value selection/s. Do you know a different way?
May be you can give us an idea of the way you come to your selection without ratings or form analysis.
Mark
Hi,
My approach to horse racing came via a request from a friend who knew I gambled for a living in the casinos playing BlackJack…. he wanted to know if I could devise a system the same as I used but purely for horse racing. I said I would have a look and within weeks I told him that it would be impossible to beat horse racing the same way I beat the casinos… but there was hope and I sort of had a plan that needed further investigation.You should realise that my approach to horse racing will never be the same as yours and after having read most of the posts in here I wonder how you guys sleep at night with all your thoughts about statistics, form ratings etc…
I am convinced the only subject you need to master is probability and how to manipulate data correctly… my methods produced a 10 yr average of 78% strike rate with a 32% ROI and having checked the last 5 years data before starting again this has not changed. You will say this is a licence to print money… well yes it is that’s why I don’t tell how I do it, sell tips, or subscriptions… my hard work to discover it and therefore my rewards…. why am I not exceedingly rich…well I have no desire other than to be able to afford all my family needs to live comfortably… GREED is the downfall of many a gambler… I also donate 10% of everything I earn to charity.
How it’s done… simply I have devised a race selection criteria, then a value criteria and if those two conditions are met then it’s a bet and if not… well on to the next day… NO form, NO Ratings… NOTHING ELSE… I will have around 100 or so bets a year depending on weather etc.
How I do things is completely different I know and hard to grasp but I was never involved in racing before I started on this path and therefore I am not conditioned to all that goes with it. To quote a famous song….I dit it MY WAY!
Most interesting, Caledon.
But if you don’t intend using Betfair, you may have a little difficulty getting your bets on. Those bookie chappies like winners even less now than they did a few years ago.
Caledon,
The only way I can see you being able to do this without looking at form is by using someone else who has looked at form. So if you don’t pay for tipsters, the only way of doing this is to use free information.
Would I be right in saying you use bookmakers odds compilers for this?
If so, it is very similar to a successful method I devised myself. With this method I don’t use exchanges much either. Because it compares bookmakers prices in a mathematical way.
Though I do like to study form too, I am a Timeform addict.
Mark
Value Is Everything
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