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Ialysos – Nice To See The Old Colours Again

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  • #11560
    stilvi
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    Must be going back 25-30 years. I did ask this on another thread but does anyone know the connection between the Marinopoulos family and George Cambanis?

    For those who don’t go back that far Mr Cambanis owned Stilvi and the five successive Group winners she produced. All were trained by Bruce Hobbs and included the Irish Derby winner Tyrnavos.

    #231132
    rory
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    The Marinopoulos breeding operation is still called Stilvi Compania Financiera, as it was when Stilvi herself was producing; my understanding is that Leonidas Marinopoulos married into the family and now runs the operation, especially as Mrs Marinopoulos officially owns Ialysos and runs in the colours made famous by the Cambanis runners.

    #231154
    cormack15
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    Who were the rest of them Stivli? Been trying to think of them but they’re not even on the tip of my tongue.

    #231155
    gumshield
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    Tolmi, Tachypous, Tromos…

    #231158
    rory
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    Stilvi produced Tachypous, Tromos, Tyrnavos & Tolmi as well as five other individual winners.

    #231171
    stilvi
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    Thanks Rory. Taxiarchos is the missing one taking the Land Of Burns when it was a Group 3. He was a rare Pattern winner for Brigadier Gerard.

    This was the list I compiled before I turned my attentions more to National Hunt pedigrees:-

    1974: TACHYPOUS (Hotfoot)
    1975: TAXIARCHOS (Brigadier Gerard)
    1976: TROMOS (Busted)
    1977: TYRNAVOS (Blakeney)
    1978: TOLMI (Great Nephew)
    1979: TENEA (Reform)
    1980: ?
    1981: TELIOS (Mill Reef)
    1982: TANAGREA (Blakeney)
    1983: TANAOS (Grundy)
    1984: TRIKYMIA (Final Straw)
    1985: TILEFOS (Shirley Heights)
    1986: TOXITIS (Pharly)

    Interesting that she did not revisit stallions. I think the once-raced Tenea was sold to Robert Sangster for a then record price for a broodmare.

    #231173
    cormack15
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    Quite a list. Did any of her daughters produce anything of note?

    #231175
    rory
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    STILVI, won 5 races and £14,606 including Duke of York Stakes, York, Gr.3, King
    George Stakes, Goodwood, Gr.3, placed second in Nunthorpe Stakes, York, Gr.2;
    dam of nine winners from 11 runners and 12 foals of racing age including-
    TYRNAVOS (c. by Blakeney), won 3 races and £164,764 including Irish Sweeps
    Derby, Curragh, Gr.1, second in Dewhurst Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.1; sire.
    TACHYPOUS (c. by Hotfoot), won 2 races including Middle Park Stakes,
    Newmarket, Gr.1, second in 2000 Guineas Stks, Newmarket, Gr.1; sire.
    TROMOS (c. by Busted), Champion 2-y-o in England in 1978, won 2 races at 2
    years and £40,009 including Dewhurst Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.1; sire.
    TOLMI (f. by Great Nephew), won 3 races, £55,572 including Coronation Stakes,
    Royal Ascot, Gr.2 and Princess Margaret Stakes, Ascot, L., placed 5 times
    including second in 1000 Guineas Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.1; dam of winners.
    Sariza, placed 4 times at 3 years; dam of SELFISH (GB), 3 races at 4 and 5
    years and £49,203 including Oak Tree Stakes, Goodwood, L.
    TAXIARCHOS (c. by Brigadier Gerard), won 3 races including Trafalgar House
    Handicap, Sandown Park, L., third in Craven Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.3; sire.
    Tanaos (c. by Grundy), 2 races, fourth in Dewhurst Stks, Newmarket, Gr.1; sire.
    Telios (c. by Mill Reef (USA)), won 1 race at 2 years and £6276 and placed twice
    including third in Craven Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.3; sire.
    Trikymia, placed once at 2 years; dam of winners.
    EPAGRIS (GB), 2 races including King Charles II Stakes, Newmarket, L.,
    placed 5 times including second in Nell Gwyn Stakes, Newmarket, Gr.3.
    Storm Card (GB), unraced; dam of SEA STAR (GB), 3 races and £45,484
    including Pricewaterhousecoopers Hambleton Stakes, York, L., GALINOS
    (GR), 1 race at 3 years, 2003 in France and placed twice.

    #231189
    wit
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    Past 12 months in HK have shown that the Marinopoulos / Stilvi name on the owner or breeder line is very good reason in itself to look closely at a runner.

    Last spring, via the French-based Spanish trainer Laffon-Parias, his BALIUS sprung an 83/1 second place behind Archipenko in the HK QE II. Subsequently sold to Godolphin.

    This spring, via Luca Cumani, his PRESVIS won the HK QE II.

    Then, via Cumani, he manages today’s result in a listed at Haydock with a horse who seems only ever to have won dirt races in Greece.

    Seems very much to know what he’s doing.

    Did he have some history also with Gary Tanaka horses?

    #231193
    rory
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    Did he have some history also with Gary Tanaka horses?

    He shared ownership of Lockinge winner Keltos with Tanaka.

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    stilvi
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    Returning to Stilvi can’t add too much to above although it is probably worth mentioning that Tenea produced Taos to Sadlers Wells. He was a listed winner at two who subsequently went on to win over hurdles.

    Just to put a little flesh on the bones Stilvi’s full record was:-

    1113-1212

    She only once raced beyond five furlongs and probably her two most noteworthy ‘scalps’ were Sallust (the subsequent Champion miler) in the National Stakes and Deep Diver (Champion sprinter) in the King George Stakes. By todays standards she would have been Group 1 class.

    In her ‘missing’ breeding year she was barren to Bustino.

    Mr Cambanis died in 1981.

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    stilvi
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    Just to conclude the grand dam of Ialysos is Trikymia.

    #235433
    gumshield
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    Interesting piece in today’s Racing Post about the stud, including a photo of Ialysos’s dam and her 2009 foal.

    #235453
    stilvi
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    Yes, two page feature. I suspect I am probably ‘one of the middle-aged people’ referred to as sending e-mails. Hopefully, he can run a decent race today and progress through the season.

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