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- October 9, 2023 at 06:21 #1666070
I generally prefer WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) “does what it says on the tin” titles for threads.
But, for once, I thought I’d take a leaf out of ERL’s book with a similarly shameless “click bait” title.
Anyway, to paraphrase Jackie Childs, one of my favourite Seinfeld cameo characters, if I raised an eyebrow at Opera Singer being a confirmed entry for Friday’s Fillies’ Mile at Newmarket, I am shaking my head in sheer disbelief at the idea she might be going to the Breeders’ Cup.
What is the subsequent Classic record the following year of juveniles taken Stateside?
I haven’t actually checked, but Meditate hasn’t exactly been a dazzling success as a 3yo, has she?
Jackie nails how I feel about this notion: https://youtu.be/r2EirLJqghA?si=22Ji0Btp_3IDz9IB
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"October 9, 2023 at 10:03 #1666072I haven’t read the article but did raise an eye brow myself when reading the plan was breeders cup last night
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October 9, 2023 at 10:44 #1666073Anthony van dyck ran at the breeders cup before winning the derby
Modern games won at the breeders cup before taking the French guineas
A couple that immediately came to mind
October 9, 2023 at 10:45 #1666074This gives me a morsel of hope!
Any juvenile fillies run at the Breeders’ Cup then gone on to Classic success in the 1,000 Guineas and/or the Oaks at Newmarket and/or Epsom Downs the following year?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"October 9, 2023 at 10:51 #1666076Mother Earth won the guineas after running 8 times as a two year including finishing 2nd in the breeders cup
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October 9, 2023 at 10:54 #1666077Cachet another had 8 runs as a 2 y/o including breeders cup before winning guineas
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October 9, 2023 at 11:00 #1666078Sky Lantern another
Oaks winners at a glance nothing jumps out although its just a glance
Two year Olds sent to the breeders cup are more than likely earlier maturing horses? or very fast which is possibly why guineas would stand out more than the Oaks.
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October 9, 2023 at 11:04 #16660792015 Qualify the last horse to win the Oaks that run at the Breeders
Oaks winners tend to have a lighter two year old campaign
Opener Singer currently on 5 runs
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October 9, 2023 at 11:38 #1666084Ian, that was pretty much
As you might know my so called click baits are as innocent as Jackie’s bystander.
October 9, 2023 at 12:46 #1666085Truly great stuff, Nathan, feel MUCH better now – but I still hope Opera Singer doesn’t run again this year!
ERL – quality!
Gotta love Jackie!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"October 9, 2023 at 19:52 #1666117Breeders Cup gives Opera Singer longer to get over the Boussac than the Fillies Mile.
However, the reason why Oaks types don’t do as well as Guineas horses racing in the States is probably due to conditions favouring speed over stamina. More like a race over 7 1/2 in Europe. Ryan also had to push Opera Singer vigorously in order to get her favoured prominent position (led or raced prominently since debut). Given the way they race in the USA compared to France, if she isn’t faster from the gate it won’t be as easy to get that prominent posi’. If unable – and leaders slow the pace down – then Opera Singer may be in trouble.
Getting beaten in the USA shouldn’t be detrimental to her Oaks hopes. It may also be a race they are using to indicate whether she’s likely to have enough speed for the Guineas or go for an Oaks trial instead.
Value Is EverythingOctober 11, 2023 at 10:02 #1666218No Opera Singer in the Fillies Mile – O’Brien runs his other two entries.
October 11, 2023 at 10:06 #1666219Thank you, Alan.
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