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If everyone voted purely on ‘form’, you would still have a variety of answers because Zarkava beating x,y, z would/could be deemed more impressive by some than Yeats beating a, b and c because ultimately it is a subjective opinion, which I will honestly admit is why I voted the way I did. I only saw one of Zarkava’ races last year, and that was on television and yes she was very impressive even to my ignorant eyes, but trying to vote objectively when asked/trying to compare different sexes over different distances on different goings on different racecourses, I would think is impossible. Any kind of poll will be influenced more by subjective motivations with a large number of the voters than pure objectivity.
Sorry, really do not want this to come across as having a go, but the degrees of involvement/knowledge of racing will always vary tremendously on these kind of forums, and allowances should be made for the likes of me who, even at the best of times, struggles with any kind of logical thought
Regarding Yeats, didn’t Lord of the rings clean up at the oscars the year the 3rd installment of the trilogy was up for nomination? I would say a vote for yeats is the same thing, but I voted for ravens pass…
Valid point, well presented LD, but I didnt say Lord Of The Rings was good Lord of the dance maybe, but they havent made a movie of that YET…
Five consecutive Group Ones, in three different countries, over two trips, under a variety of conditions, Duke Of Marmalde’s early season achievements were enough for me.
It’s easy to forget what he accomplished, especially after his form tailed-off towards the end of the season, but his combination of class and unparalleled courage were perfectly illustrated at Ascot, in the Prince Of Wales and King George VI, respectively.
New Approach, Henrythenaviagator and Raven’s Pass made it a great season for the classic generation.
Runner-up in two Guineas to Henrythenavigator over an inadequate trip, New Approach showed his class with a great win in the Epsom Derby, despite never settling. He was well beaten by DOM in the rescheduled Juddmonte, before returning to the track to slam the talented Twice Over in the Champion Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was a fine dual Guineas winner and, like his stablemate Duke Of Marmalade, rattled off a fine sequence of Group One victories, adding the St James’ Palace Stakes and Sussex Stakes to his classic success. He finished his career with a perfectly respectable second in the Breeders Cup Classic to his worthy rival, Ravens Pass.
After high profile defeats to HTN at Newmarket, The Curragh and Royal Ascot, Ravens Pass returned to avenge those defeats in the QEII and BC Classic.
Yeats recorded an incredible third victory the Ascot Gold Cup – one of the highlights of the season. He once again established himself as the best stayer in Europe by adding the Goodwood Cup and Prix Royal-Oak to his Ascot victory. One of the greatest stayers of the modern era.
The brilliant Zarkava established herself as one of the greatest fillies in history with Group One victories over eight, ten and twelve furlongs. She defeated Goldikova and Halfway to Heaven in her first classic success, who went on to win the Irish 1000 Guineas, Nassau, Sun Chariot, Prix Rothschild, Prix Du Moulin and Breeders Cup Mile between them. She finished her career with a breathtaking win in the Arc, where she had a plethora of top class colts and older horses behind.
Connections opted not to venture from her comfort zone of Longchamp and although that proved a good decision based on her success, it has counted against her in my decision.Due to his early season achievements, Duke Of Marmalade gets my vote. He had New Approach behind when landing the Juddmonte and Jim Bolgers Epsom Derby winner came a close second in my decision, with Zarkava third.
The 2008 Flat season produced a fine crop of horses. The classic generation of Henrythenavigator, Ravens Pass and New Approach collected three classic and nine Group Ones between them. Ravens Pass and Henrythenavigator gave Great Britain and Ireland a one-two in the Breeders Cup Classic, while St Leger winner, Conduit, also landed the BC Turf at Santa Anita.
Zarkava added a futher four Group Ones, including two classics, for the 3YOs and beat the best of the boys in the Arc.
A great home classic generation and a phenomenal filly were perfectly complemented by the presence of the solid 4YO Duke Of Marmalade and veteran campaigner, Yeats.
2009 has a lot to live up to.
Zarkava wins because she deserves to win full stop.
Does not matter what distance, indeed Zarkava won over a number of distances. You say she got votes because it is the classic distance yet some have chosen a horse because it is a stayer.
Some of us do not need to look these things up Fist, we just know.
Any forumites fancy entering a team quizz at Newbury Racecourse?
Taking on the likes of the Racing Post, Wetherbys, Raceform, trainers etc?
Mark
Disagree with our entirely on that score Ginge. If Zarkava hadn’t run in the Arc and had won some 3yo filles group1 over as mile she wold hardly have gotten a vote here, The Arc put her on the map any other race she would never have gained the fame she did.
1 race and 1 race only got he the support she has..and just look at the votes she got……Derby winners and Arc winners are the most expensive sires in Europe. The races are wtached my mre peole than any. What kind of argumant is "some got votes?" She finished a distance in front of Yeats who has been doing it for 3 years plus…she did it once…..and you think I’m wrong
Five consecutive Group Ones, in three different countries, over two trips, under a variety of conditions, Duke Of Marmalde’s early season achievements were enough for me.
It’s easy to forget what he accomplished, especially after his form tailed-off towards the end of the season, but his combination of class and unparalleled courage were perfectly illustrated at Ascot, in the Prince Of Wales and King George VI, respectively.
New Approach, Henrythenaviagator and Raven’s Pass made it a great season for the classic generation.
Runner-up in two Guineas to Henrythenavigator over an inadequate trip, New Approach showed his class with a great win in the Epsom Derby, despite never settling. He was well beaten by DOM in the rescheduled Juddmonte, before returning to the track to slam the talented Twice Over in the Champion Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was a fine dual Guineas winner and, like his stablemate Duke Of Marmalade, rattled off a fine sequence of Group One victories, adding the St James’ Palace Stakes and Sussex Stakes to his classic success. He finished his career with a perfectly respectable second in the Breeders Cup Classic to his worthy rival, Ravens Pass.
After high profile defeats to HTN at Newmarket, The Curragh and Royal Ascot, Ravens Pass returned to avenge those defeats in the QEII and BC Classic.
Yeats recorded an incredible third victory the Ascot Gold Cup – one of the highlights of the season. He once again established himself as the best stayer in Europe by adding the Goodwood Cup and Prix Royal-Oak to his Ascot victory. One of the greatest stayers of the modern era.
The brilliant Zarkava established herself as one of the greatest fillies in history with Group One victories over eight, ten and twelve furlongs. She defeated Goldikova and Halfway to Heaven in her first classic success, who went on to win the Irish 1000 Guineas, Nassau, Sun Chariot, Prix Rothschild, Prix Du Moulin and Breeders Cup Mile between them. She finished her career with a breathtaking win in the Arc, where she had a plethora of top class colts and older horses behind.
Connections opted not to venture from her comfort zone of Longchamp and although that proved a good decision based on her success, it has counted against her in my decision.Due to his early season achievements, Duke Of Marmalade gets my vote. He had New Approach behind when landing the Juddmonte and Jim Bolgers Epsom Derby winner came a close second in my decision, with Zarkava third.
The 2008 Flat season produced a fine crop of horses. The classic generation of Henrythenavigator, Ravens Pass and New Approach collected three classic and nine Group Ones between them. Ravens Pass and Henrythenavigator gave Great Britain and Ireland a one-two in the Breeders Cup Classic, while St Leger winner, Conduit, also landed the BC Turf at Santa Anita.
Zarkava added a futher four Group Ones, including two classics, for the 3YOs and beat the best of the boys in the Arc.
A great home classic generation and a phenomenal filly were perfectly complemented by the presence of the solid 4YO Duke Of Marmalade and veteran campaigner, Yeats.
2009 has a lot to live up to.
I disagree with your vote (Zarkava for me) but a great synopsis of a great season. 2009 does indeed have a lot to live up to.
The jumps is already failing to live up to last year’s stellar season.
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Got to be The Duke for me.
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