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Why is this meeting not taking place, Been plus 7 for last two days, not a speck of snow on the ground, the forecast is for +1 tonight and +7 again tomorrow.
Kempton looks pretty much ok also why is King George meeting not in instead of the AW fayre?
Perhaps Haydock are running scared from leaving it late after the grief Kempton got (not that I disagree with the amount of grief they got)
I can’t imagine that it’s still frozen, it’s been above freezing since Sunday afternoon (they did get a fair bit of snow) but I think my money would be on it more likely being waterlogged following the melt.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they were protecting the Peter Marsh meeting on January 22nd too. It’s on a weekend, it’s on the telly AND they’ve got a race sponsored by a bookmaker (God knows how The Jockey Club capitulate to bookmakers).
The turf track doesn’t have floodlights and I’m not sure Kauto Star would turn out for a first prize of about £3,000.
The northern tracks are taking longer to thaw because the frost is much further into the ground. I don’t know where you live but it has not been above freezing since Sunday where I live, just inside the M25 in Enfield. We would not have raced on turf on the nearby recreation ground on Monday as there was still frost in the ground and a bit of snow. It has cleared now, but I doubt that Haydock have had the same thaw that the south has had.
Look at Musselburgh, right by the sea, but put their cancelled inspection back on as the temperature has not risen enough to get the frost out quickly enough. If Haydock did not have frost covers then it had no chance at all, if it did then it was dependent on the snow clearing.
Not a big fan of Haydock, but this time I think we have to look at the location of the track and its ability to clear frost and snow. For once I sympathise with them
I wonder what Haydock are thinking of, perhaps it’s the fact that these days they have the wheel on and wheel off obstacles that just use one part of the course and they want to protect the ground for a Saturday meeting! Since they did away with the traditional NH track this course has started on the slippery slope heading downwards, what a shame.
The whole of St. Helens was covered in snow until Tuesday morning after the temperature started to rise on Monday.
I’ve no idea why Tellwright issued such a positive word on racing at the track earlier in the week as it was obvious to anyone in the area that the chances of a sporting event taking place in the town any time before the weekend were nil.
As mentioned earlier in the thread different areas thaw at different rates – I left Brighton for my parents on the 22nd December, we’d had no snow on the ground for two whole days prior to this. St. Helens had 3 inches of snow on the ground when I arrived and that remained pretty much constant until Sunday night when we got another very brief splattering and then it started to warm up (up to around 1C) and by Tuesday it was around 5C – no idea of conditions yesterday or Tuesday evening as I was back in the South by then.
I wonder what Haydock are thinking of, perhaps it’s the fact that these days they have the wheel on and wheel off obstacles that just use one part of the course and they want to protect the ground for a Saturday meeting! Since they did away with the traditional NH track this course has started on the slippery slope heading downwards, what a shame.
I’ll tell you something else too: they’ve started running hurdles races on a new inner course. Maybe it’s me who likes a good conspiracy theory, but it looks to me like they’re making room for an all weather circuit.
A lot of us Haydock Members are wise to what is going on and it would not surprise us in the slightest if Haydock put an AW course in.
Went up this morning to renew by badge and their was no snow in sight and they could and should have raced but this clerk is a total idiot and does more harm than good.
I can really believe that Haydock will have an AW before 2020.
They’ve looked into it before Neil around the turn of the century with talk of an inner AW course and lengthening the current straight course.
They’ve looked into it before Neil around the turn of the century with talk of an inner AW course and lengthening the current straight course.
Now I would certainly approve of them having a mile long straight course especially considering the fine ‘head on’ view that you get from the area around the parade ring.
It’s possible they shelved the AW idea because also around the early ‘noughties’ there was talk of an AW course being built in Salford. Now that idea seems to have gone down the pan, perhaps Haydock are reconsidering.
I’m fairly uneducated about fences (the majority of them look pretty much the same to me) so what is it about Haydock’s ‘drop in’ fences that makes them so awful?
And why do they take them away in the summer, even though flat races don’t use the jumps course?
The old fences were a real test but even Kauto Star jumped them fine when you consider he only fell over the new portables.
The only reason they got rid was to put the new flat course in which is a waste as they only race on the flat from April to September anyway in the year.
As regarding the new jumps course the original plan was to race on a single track but then put the new inner hurdle course in to help with the ground which has been a bit of help although they could have switched between the flat tracks for the hurdles.
Regarding the summer they take them off so the jumps course can be filled with sponsors boards.
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