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Thankyou for all your questions and various other comments. I’ll get through them now!
Robbie Waterhouse is a crook and a thief. Why should his opinion be worthy of listening to? We phased out the staying pedigree due to a varying number of reasons.
Anyway – how can the environment impact on the type of thoroughbred?
Any evidence for that slanderous remark about Mr Waterhouse?
He has never struck me as being anything other than straightforward and knowledgeable concerning many aspects of racing.Never heard of the Fine Cotton scandal? He’s a crook and a thief – it’s not slanderous, it’s a pretty accurate description of the man. Nothing sinister, because he is, as you say, an intelligent horseman. Can be very generous to punters, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine_Cotton
describes the inept Fine Cotton scandal. No charges other than that he knew a week beforehand, that does not make him a crook, he certainly was not the ring leader of this amateurish scam and no one has accused him of stealing anything. The stewards stopped all payments of bets.
What about Mackybe Diva (ave I got the spelling right?).
Without wishing to sound like a teacher, Makybe Diva
Thanks mate.
Thought it looked a bit wrong somehow.
You saying I do sound like a teacher?
Surely not.Ginge
Value Is EverythingYou’re responding with information you have read from Wikipedia, Robert? We may as well end the argument there.
I’m not saying all champion racehorses of Australia have seven letters, but there are a fair few recognisable names amongst that list.
Myles,
You say British punters are better informed or more knowledgeable. Is Australian racing covered by any organisation / form book similar to Timeform?
Take it you have heard of them, being interested in breeding.Value Is EverythingYes – I am very up-to-date with Timeform. However, it is widely considered a non-existant organisation in Australia.
There are various form books and organisations, some of the leading entities include Best Bets, Winning Post and The Sportsman.
A horseman friend and I – both of similar ages – push for Timeform to be more widespread in Australia but it simply is left alone. Everyone who has a worthy opinion of a horse, race, trainer or jockey is published in some shape or form.
We don’t have a principal leader in racing and it is something I am hoping to improve upon. There is no Racing Post-like organisation … there is no epicentre. Searching for the right information and form has to be traced through various branches of racing media and analysis, and it can lead some punters into dead-ends.
Form books exist, then, but does an all-encompassing form database such as the Racing Post’s here? I’m presuming possibly not, as Australian races tend to appear on there on a strictly ad hoc basis, i.e when an Australian horse comes to run or is imported over here, and often with most of the salient trainer and jockey form absent. Please do let us know if the reverse is true, though.
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I couldnt believe that the betting shops in Australia did not have a proper form guide in them.
A lot of the pubs in Australia are also betting shops, they encourage you to get drunk and gamble on horses at the same time without offering you any realistic form guide to make your judgement on the bet.I may well be talking complete rubbish as I was probably drunk at the time of trying to find some form.
I wait for the day in which a group of enthusiastic Australian entrepreneurs develop the antipodean Racing Post.
Timeform Racehorses 2007 will soon be published Myles.
06 version had Murtajill top rated 2yo in Aus, Miss Finland top 3yo, Racing To Win and Takeover Target top older horses.Value Is EverythingYour average Joe six-pack is a regular punter, Zoso. "Mug punting" is a bigger business than those who actually know what they are doing. Hence, why bother creating elaborate formguides in the betting shops?
It just means a sweeter price for the guy who knows his stuff. Happy days.
You’re responding with information you have read from Wikipedia, Robert? We may as well end the argument there.
I’m not saying all champion racehorses of Australia have seven letters, but there are a fair few recognisable names amongst that list.
So you have no evidence for your cowardly remarks on RW at all and can’t answer the points made – just yet another all mouth and trousers merchant ?
Thankyou for the warm welcome Robert. When I have time, I’ll explain to you who Robbie Waterhouse is.
I wait for the day in which a group of enthusiastic Australian entrepreneurs develop the antipodean Racing Post.
Despite some of the stick the RP gets on here I can’t imagine my saturday afternoons without it…
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