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    Grimes
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    I believe there has only been one horse in a class of his own, Myles, even among great champions, and that was the American horse, Secretariat.

    I believe his greatest race was the 1973 Belmont Stakes, which he won by 25 lengths. I read somewhere that our Derby winner, Snow Knight, would have been at approximately the furlong pole when he passed the post. Here are video footages of some of his races:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Hn-6DsQXk

    #142636
    Neil Watson
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    Hi Myles, Good to see the trf going a little bit international

    A few things puzzle me about Aussie racing can you answer these for me please

    1 Why do nearley all races even in the Melbourne Cup do the jockeys all slow down the pace and all end up taking a pull and have their horses fighting for their heads?

    2 Will Australia ever go back to using proper distances like 1m2f instead of 2000m?

    3 Do you have much National Hunt racing out their?

    4 Will you please take JA McGrath back and give us Matt Hill or Greg Miles insted

    #142642
    Venusian
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    NW, I can answer a couple of the questions.

    To question 2, the answer is "no".

    To question 3, here are the 2006 figures, from the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities site…

    Races run:

    Flat…….19,821
    Jump……….142
    Trotting.15,666

    #142643
    FrankLucas
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    Myles,or anybody else for that matter,just a short question, what is Zeljko Ranogajec’s background do you know,is it maths/science orientated?

    #142647
    Grimes
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    Triple Crown, it looked more like 31 lengths to me! But I thought I heard one of the commentators say 25. Probably just off the top of his head. But Big Red sure was some machine, wasn’t he! Apparently, that horse Swaps, he beat by about 2 1/2 lenghts, I think, in one of the other big races was a legend in his own right – like Seattle Slew, I suppose.

    #142669
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Thankyou for all your questions and various other comments. I’ll get through them now!

    Robbie Waterhouse is a crook and a thief. Why should his opinion be worthy of listening to? We phased out the staying pedigree due to a varying number of reasons.

    Anyway – how can the environment impact on the type of thoroughbred?

    Any evidence for that slanderous remark about Mr Waterhouse?
    He has never struck me as being anything other than straightforward and knowledgeable concerning many aspects of racing.

    Never heard of the Fine Cotton scandal? He’s a crook and a thief – it’s not slanderous, it’s a pretty accurate description of the man. Nothing sinister, because he is, as you say, an intelligent horseman. Can be very generous to punters, too.

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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    I believe there has only been one horse in a class of his own, Myles, even among great champions, and that was the American horse, Secretariat.

    I believe his greatest race was the 1973 Belmont Stakes, which he won by 25 lengths. I read somewhere that our Derby winner, Snow Knight, would have been at approximately the furlong pole when he passed the post. Here are video footages of some of his races:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Hn-6DsQXk

    I know all too well about Secretariat. It’s a famous shot in the Belmont Stakes where he has distanced Sham and the remainders by so much on the home straight that the camera has to zoom out, with the grandstand in view and the fans raising their hands in the air and celebrating.

    He probably was the greatest horse on earth – his heart was abnormal in its large size. But how does one compare him to Man o’ War, or Citation? Tudor Minstrel, Dancing Brave, or even Eclipse and Flying Childers? That’s why everyone is privileged to have their own opinion on this topic. And I will always believe Dubai Millennium was the greatest equine athlete to land on a racetrack.

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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Hi Myles, Good to see the trf going a little bit international

    A few things puzzle me about Aussie racing can you answer these for me please

    1 Why do nearley all races even in the Melbourne Cup do the jockeys all slow down the pace and all end up taking a pull and have their horses fighting for their heads?

    2 Will Australia ever go back to using proper distances like 1m2f instead of 2000m?

    3 Do you have much National Hunt racing out their?

    4 Will you please take JA McGrath back and give us Matt Hill or Greg Miles insted

    1 – My first ever published article was about why the European brigade rarely fires a shot in the Melbourne Cup. My first reasoning behind it was the "race pace" in Australia. That is our style – gate speed is important, then we slow down to store enough in the tank for a final sprint home. It probably adds to the fact that Australians mostly generate sprinters.

    Do you wonder why the last Australian-bred horse to win the Melbourne Cup was Rogan Josh in 1999? We don’t breed stayers anymore!

    2 – I would appreciate returning to the mile/furlong system again but those times have changed.

    3 – Our jumps racing is weak. The trainers are virtual nobodys and they only jump in Victoria and South Australia, possibly Tasmania but I am unaware of this. Of course, Karasi has won three Group 1 Nakayama Grand Jumps in a row, but besides the stakes money it is a non-existant race.

    4 – You have have Matthew Hill or Greg Miles but we still have David Raphael and Terry Spargo, the former of those being the best caller on earth :wink:

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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Myles,or anybody else for that matter,just a short question, what is Zeljko Ranogajec’s background do you know,is it maths/science orientated?

    My sources consider it to be a maths related expertise.

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    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Triple Crown, it looked more like 31 lengths to me! But I thought I heard one of the commentators say 25. Probably just off the top of his head. But Big Red sure was some machine, wasn’t he! Apparently, that horse Swaps, he beat by about 2 1/2 lenghts, I think, in one of the other big races was a legend in his own right – like Seattle Slew, I suppose.

    In the Kentucky Derby which Secretariat won and holds the track record, the closest to that particular time was none other than Sham, the horse who finished second in that race.

    #142685
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Mick? Mick Cerchi?

    :D

    No Myles not Mick Cerchi…….Mick Dundee mate everone knows old Crocodle Dundee

    We miss him you know :lol:

    Sorry about that couldn’t resist it you being an oz and all. :wink:

    #142690
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Funny – you do, your folks across the Atlantic do, your folks from everywhere across the English Channel do … we seriously don’t.

    I never knew his first name was "Mick". Seriously!

    #142772
    Grimes
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    Not to mention Far Lap, Myles!

    I think they all have/had enormous hearts. Far Lap and Himself did, too. I reckon I must have one the size of an acorn, if my efforts over 100 yards were any guide. Yet I always felt I was flying like the wind, and was kind of surpised I came in 20 yards behind the field!

    If I had been a racehorse, I don’t think I would have been described as a "thinker". "Enigmatic", maybe. Even "goofy", but not a "thinker".

    #142778
    Venusian
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    Far Lap – who he?

    #142790
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    He should have been called "Farlap". But Harry Telford wanted seven letters because it was good luck and the trend showed that many Melbourne Cup winners had seven letters.

    Now – all great Australian horses have seven letters. Don’t believe me? Role call:

    Sunline
    Phar Lap
    Tulloch
    Carbine
    Saintly
    Mummify
    Subzero
    At Talaq
    Hyperno
    Galilee
    Wakeful
    Lonhro
    Rubiton
    Choisir
    Dulcify
    Gunsynd
    Merlene
    Catbird
    Danzero
    Sky High
    Pharaoh
    Chatham
    Amounis
    The Barb
    Shannon

    Not bad.

    #142833
    Ugly Mare
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    Now – all great Australian horses have seven letters. Don’t believe me? Role call:

    ..not all. Kingston Town/Manikato…Might and Power?

    Leilani you could have included. Perhaps you’re too young to remember, sir :)

    #142835
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    What about Mackybe Diva (ave I got the spelling right?).

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