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Charlie D,
Is there a thread about the Dubai International Racing Carnival? I’m a little surprised that I cannot find one. Mick Channon’s first mounts were saddled up last week and John Balding saddled the first British winner on Friday night.
When does the British flat season begin? Last week of March?
There was a thread on Dubia Carnival Myles. but it seems to have dropped away (people are probably more interested in National Hunt at moment)
RE : Flat season start
Don’t know exact date, but it’s about that time mate i believe
If the betting shops down here would add European jumps racing to their calendar, I would be head first into the action – but the betting shops only provide a maximum of 24 runners in a race in their system. Very unfortunate!
Welcome Myles you say you are hoping to limprove your knowledge of the International racing scene.
Mate you been here 5 mins and I’m already learning from you
You say you are a horseman by that do you mean you have ridden racehorse/horses or you write about horses?
One other question Do you see much of Mick these days?
Mick? Mick Cerchi?
I have worked in racing stables, 195cm/78kg makes an issue for trackriding (unfortunately). I’ll learn to walk, trot and canter on a horse soon.
I also write about horses. I’m at the racetrack every week, trials when it is possible, yearling sales when it is possible.
When I say "improve knowledge", I mean, I want to know the quirks of the Rowley Mile, Tattenham Corner and Swinley Bottom. The track quirks, how the stables operate too, as well as the races.
For instance, I remember noticing a horse in a race at Lingfield turf with a formline of 0900 … it was favourite, and won easily. I was flabbergasted.
How do the class ratings work in UK, too? Trust me, I’ll have plenty of questions to ask
Barney Curley – the name is familiar from Frankie Dettori’s auto-biography.
Oh – and I still remember the name of the horse. King Orchisios. It was on Champion day at Newmarket and I had cleaned up on New Approach but by quaddie* went down the drain when I left KO out of the third leg.
*Quaddie = I’m pretty sure you folks know the Quadrella format?
That was brilliant……….amazed Big Mac had the balls to show that…
Any idea what was Barney referring to when he said he bailed him out? I was told around 83 that Big Mac had huge gambling debts……..Did BC let him in on a big touch or something?
The reference to the big bookies manipulating the market and recycling the punters money was spot on. As were most of the other things he said. Although I think he lost the plot a bit with Luke Harvery who wasn’t the worst pilot of his time.
I got slagged on here or saying they are doing it with Denman by making him ridiculously low, but I still believe the horse will be pushed out on the course by the sheer weight of money for Kauto Star on Gold Cup day and the big boys like Ladbrokes will be right in there using the punters money to ensure they make a profit should Denman win or lose..My bookie uses the same phrase about Hills Ladbrokes and Corals as Curly, only its 2 plums to a plum….wouldn’t surprise me either if they have laid off every penny they have taken for Kauto Star and all the talk about the horse being a big loser for them is true but a lie at the same time………….they will pay out if the horse wins but how much will they pull back in? Not saying they aren’t sensible they just aren’t bookmakers in the true sense of the word.
Oh – that’s right. I’m pretty sure quadrella has a different meaning in Oz compared to England.
Quadrella – the betting shop nominates four races in a meeting – usually consecutive races – for which you must select the winner of all four races in order to be successful in the wager.
TC
Barney already has one "Giving A Little Back", but I can’t remember if he mentions it or not. A good idea if you want to read to follow it with "A Wayward Lad" by Graham Bradley and then you get both sides of the argument re the Robin Goodfellow (I think) saga.
Miles, what do you think of your fellow countryman Rob Waterhouse’s contention that the superiority of Australian sprinters is in no small part down to environmental factors?
Robbie Waterhouse is a crook and a thief. Why should his opinion be worthy of listening to? We phased out the staying pedigree due to a varying number of reasons.
Anyway – how can the environment impact on the type of thoroughbred?
Everyone else look away now!
Miles,
Is the Table Of Odds And Chances kept as quiet by the Aussie press as it is over here? May be you would like to reply to my Quetion To tha Racing Media thread?There may be a bit of substance to the enviroment arguement. The best 3 jumping yards in UK are all in the south-west.
Value Is EverythingLet me be very candid – I have no ****ing idea what you are talking about.
So … I think the answer is obvious: it’s kept under wraps.
Let me continue on the candid attitude: although I am a living breathing horseman, journalist, purist and enthusiast … I rarely bet.
I’m reading over this system on a thread you posted on another forum. I am thoroughly intrigued.
I will post further tomorrow. It’s bedtime. Good luck punting today.
Robbie Waterhouse is a crook and a thief. Why should his opinion be worthy of listening to? We phased out the staying pedigree due to a varying number of reasons.
Anyway – how can the environment impact on the type of thoroughbred?
Any evidence for that slanderous remark about Mr Waterhouse?
He has never struck me as being anything other than straightforward and knowledgeable concerning many aspects of racing.Environment can have many aspects and the financial one for the circumstances of typical owners is just one. In UK, we used to have "store" horses, bred purely for jumping that were hardly raced until 5 year olds. That is no longer affordable for many owners and they buy less stoutly bred "dual purpose" horses from off the flat.
welcome myles, im moving to Melbourne in a couple of months time i hope your preferences dont mean aussie racing is hopeless! ha ha
A big environmental factor which may explain the dominance of Australian sprinters is the climate, which makes racing stayers less attractive over most of the continent. Do you really want horses running over long distances in temperatures of 35 to 40C? It’s probably significant that what little jump racing there is takes place only in Victoria and Tasmania. I don’t think there’s been any jumping in NSW for at least 50 years.
The other factor is Star Kingdom (what a loss for the UK bloodstock industry!). Wasn’t the Golden Slipper invented mainly to give his speedsters something to run in?
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