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ATR is a free channel that covers most of the horse racing in Britain and Ireland as well as US, Australian and other international racing, they have a good free website too. If you miss the racing today you can see the re-runs later.
Some people moan too much.
Its my opinion folks thats all , if it upsets you , tough !!!
ATR is a channel run by bookies , for the bookies , if you enjoy it fine , in fact great , however I can still express a view without being subjected to the pathetic comments
grow up
Ricky
Oh dear.
If you genuinely see yourself as a budding polemicist, you may want to acquaint yourself with the essays of the sorely-missed Christopher Hitchens.
A forest of exclamation marks should not be confused with structure and reason.
Mike
Its my opinion folks thats all , if it upsets you , tough !!!
ATR is a channel run by bookies , for the bookies , if you enjoy it fine , in fact great , however I can still express a view without being subjected to the pathetic comments
grow up
Ricky
Strange that you’ve called other’s comments pathetic when they’ve expressed by they think it should continue and you haven’t explained why you think it should be closed down.
Shame …I was rather hoping it would close…still we live and hope
I’m even more amazed at the criticism even Racing UK has been getting on another forum. From even the bits I see at the end of races on sportinglife.com, the presenters seem good. I can’t believe some people have been saying that they would prefer not to have to listen to the presenters but I find the analysis interesting even in those few minutes that get shown on sportinglife.
Why I don’t like Racing UK and won’t pay for it:
Nick ‘Lord Snooty’ Luck, Tom ‘I’m from Yorkshire but put a posh voice on" Ryan, Rishi ‘knows nothing’ Persad, James ‘I try to be funny but never quite achieve it’ Willoughby, Peter ‘boring’ Naughton for a start. The way they came into racing and decided they were in charge we have all the big tracks tough if you don’t like it attitude. We saved Channel 4 and want our brand plastered everywhere and mentioned every few minutes. The way Racing UK buys the rights to other things ie US Racing, South African Racing etc then drops it after a few months.
There are more reasons but that will do for now.
They also announced last week that Dave Duggan would be leaving to Irish angle and ATR altogether. I would really love if Garry O’Brien took up this position i think he would be very good on it
Great threadRicky Lake:
Had you down as an irritable semi-literate 20yo – what one would expect
Not an irritable semi-literate 60yo – what one wouldn’t expect
Most racing is run-of-the-mill – more of it now than ever – and the incessant jollification of a very trivial pursuit, particularly by ATR, does grate, bore and promote an exhalation of wearied heard-it-all before breath
But then I remind myself:
the footage of the race itself is priceless
innit
"Nicnumber1" wrote: They also announced last week that Dave Duggan would be leaving to Irish angle and ATR altogether. I would really love if Garry O’Brien took up this position i think he would be very good on it
I think Gary O’Brien would be an able substitute, but given that there is often Irish racing on Thursdays, he will often be need to report live from the track. Whatever happens I hope they keep the Irish Angle going.
the footage of the race itself is priceless
It’s great that there are two specialist racing channels, providing superb opportunities to watch racing every day, if you’ve got the time.
Racing UK seems a superbly professional operation to me. The very limited bits of the service I have seen have impressed me. The presenters seem admirably professional, especially Nick Luck, and the whole presentation and packaging seems very good.
I would not pay for it, no matter how good it was, purely because I couldn’t watch enough of it to justify it.
At The Races is, if you take Drone’s excellent point of allowing priceless access to saturation racing coverage, also excellent from this point of view.
The presenters and lower grade racing, except Ascot, often get widely slated but, as a means of watching racing, we should count ourselves lucky it is available.
I still love watching even low-grade selling hurdles at lowly jumps courses on ATR when I have the chance. As I have said before, I find the spectacle of watching a lowly jumps race, with poor quality runners, more entertaining than meetings on the Flat.
That is one of the joys of ATR. I have been known to voice a few less than flattering observations about presenters and commentators but I would never, ever decry the invaluable service provided by the specialist racing channels or, for that matter, the BBC or Channel 4.
We are lucky to have them all, warts and all. I certainly would never call for any racing channel to be taken off the air (any more than I would call for any racecourse to close).Doncaster is not low grade and ATR have all the Irish meetings so ATR is not "All The Rot" as it was termed when it started. They have all the big Irish races which RUK don’t have they also show big races from around the world plus they do American Racing which RUK does not I believe now.
What other sport has two dedicated channels focused on one sport 7 days a week over 20 hours a day.
If only Racing UK was free to air horse racing would be the ideal sport for an armchair enthusiast.
We should be grateful for what we have maybe we have become to used to getting horse racing when we want it whenever we want it.
That doesn’t mean we can’t critise either channel if they do something wrong but we should remember other sports have to sell their rights as a package ie Premier League so cannot set up their own channels to show their sport- racing is unique in this way.
Doncaster is not low grade and ATR have all the Irish meetings so ATR is not "All The Rot" as it was termed when it started. They have all the big Irish races which RUK don’t have they also show big races from around the world plus they do American Racing which RUK does not I believe now.
What other sport has two dedicated channels focused on one sport 7 days a week over 20 hours a day.
If only Racing UK was free to air horse racing would be the ideal sport for an armchair enthusiast.
We should be grateful for what we have maybe we have become to used to getting horse racing when we want it whenever we want it.
That doesn’t mean we can’t critise either channel if they do something wrong but we should remember other sports have to sell their rights as a package ie Premier League so cannot set up their own channels to show their sport- racing is unique in this way.
Good post Steve, as you say which other sport has two dedicated tv channels, I think we’re extremely lucky.
My friend’s nephew works for SIS and according to him ATR is being moved from the soon to close SIS offices in North London to the SIS office in Milton Keynes. Apparently its a state of the art studio that will bring the production upto the Sky Sports standard.
The remainder of the SIS services in London are going to Manchester. Not sure of timeframes for completion
.Coincidentally RUK/TurfTV recently moved to new premises.
Interesting story on page 9 of today’s RP. TurfTV are taking SIS to court over allegations of the theft of commercially sensitive information when Phil Siers moved to SIS from TurfTV.
Doncaster is not low grade and ATR have all the Irish meetings so ATR is not "All The Rot" as it was termed when it started. They have all the big Irish races which RUK don’t have they also show big races from around the world plus they do American Racing which RUK does not I believe now.
Good point about Doncaster. Because Doncaster tends to stage quite a few modest meetings, especially on the Flat, as well as the St Leger and Lincoln, people including me tend to forget that it is a top-tier track.
It’s amazing how many times people, including me, mention just Ascot as the ATR star name.
I also like watching the Irish meetings, especially the jumps meetings, but I’m ashamed to say I usually fast forward them these days purely because, if I video a day’s racing, I just haven’t got the time to watch it all and usually I’m more interested in the British meetings.Racing Post Trophy Group 1, Doncaster Cup, Champagne Stakes, November Handicap,Skybet Chase, Home of the Bloodstock Sales,
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Absolutely right. It’s amazing how little I’ve seen Doncaster on ATR, usually because I would have watched it on Channel 4 for most of these races so I don’t bother duplicating by watching the ATR coverage as well.
Simon Mapletoft always seems to do the presenting from Doncaster. He seems very good but I know others disagree on that.
Entirely typical of my luck that, when I did watch Doncaster on ATR recently, who should be commentating but John Hunt…
And he also popped up hosting the ATR morning show when I had recorded it for some racing review replays.
And then he was commentating at Nottingham….Doncaster used to be on RUK but switched to ATR – for reasons I forget – after the year-long closure while the new stand was built, I think. It was a shame to lose it from the relatively thoughtful-man’s channel as the Leger meeting has long been my favourite Flat meeting and the chronically underused NH track is terrific
Am I right in stating that Doncaster is the only track to date to have moved from RUK to ATR?
Though I don’t now subscribe to either RUK or ATR, finding their "priceless"
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archives of replays more than adequate, if I were to resume subscribing a return to the pared-down no-frills presentation of the original Racing Channel would be welcome. That channel’s ‘studio’ resembled a cardboard scout hut wherein a talking head acted as little more than a link between the on-course presentersThere were no high-fives no bally-hoo nor chat-in-extremis for chatter’s sake
Some may have called it boring; I called it pleasingly understated and to-the-point viz the horse, the race and little else
Great thread
archives of replays more than adequate, if I were to resume subscribing a return to the pared-down no-frills presentation of the original Racing Channel would be welcome. That channel’s ‘studio’ resembled a cardboard scout hut wherein a talking head acted as little more than a link between the on-course presenters- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.