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    Mike007
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    Galopin Des Champs 13-2

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Just relieved GDC is ok.

    Stattler and L’Homme Presse for me at this stage, but I’ll let the dust settle first I think.

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    Mike007
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    Some good horses on the scene potentially for next year.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Is Stattler classy enough ? , I’ll prob have a tickle on Monkfish until after tomorrow’s race

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    Istabraq
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    Mullins was saying after the race he’d like to see gdc over 2 miles

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Mullins keeping his options open again, Istabraq.
    Probably be entered in the Grand National too.

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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    I know what happened to GDC was unfortunate but he jumped several fences very big. Landing steeply must increase the risk of not getting the landing gear out in time and knuckling over. I would like to see him jump a little lower and more economically in future.

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Mullins could be right about the 2m option. He is still very young and full of speed. Shishkin looks out of his comfort zone in the early parts of a race, if it’s run at a proper Championship tempo. And why not having him and Energumene for the minimum trip.

    It’s true that he was quite big at some of his fences and this surely cost him, like any other horse, the necessary energy to get the landing gear out late in the race. His is very novicey, imagine him still having his balls.

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    Avatar photobefair
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    Can’t believe GDC would go back in trip, unless it’s temporary. There is only one Gold Cup

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    FinalFurlong91
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    GDC seems to be getting faster

    Think this is a very unlikely destination for him, ryanair much more his bag for next year. He will still only be 7 by then after all. Willie was right, you cant jump with that enthusiasm and stay 3m2f.

    Cant have Bob olinger at all he isn’t a natural jumper

    Will Bravemansgame stay 3m2f? Doubtful

    Ahoy senor has a huge chance IF he improves his jumping

    Lhomme presse also has a huge chance

    Then there’s monkfish to hopefully return

    Some badly needed new blood in a weak staying division

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I thought Mullins would go a Gold Cup route with Faugheen but he was proved right going back in trip with that one.
    Galopin des Champs looks tailored made for a Gold Cup. I get the jumping big issue but he has such a wonderful blend of speed and being relentless in the gallop would think the Gold Cup would be his for the taking.

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    greenasgrass
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    I think Ryanair for GDC. I don’t think any horse can do that riveting, attacking, gasps-from-the-crowd jumping round 3m2f. It is spectacular to watch and one of the joys of NH racing, but I didn’t think any horse has won a GC jumping like that and I think it would spoil the fun to hook him back and cramp his style. 2-2.5 and let rip!

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Hes allaho 2.0 in my eyes

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    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    If he can settle a bit more, the KG should be considered. Vautour almost won one for them, why not GDC?

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    To my eyes GDC jumped the early fences big but most were measured just right. Even the last fence was a good jump, just knuckled on landing.

    Seemed to settle ok to me. Just made sense to make it a test of stamina at the trip as he was proven over further and his main (only) rival’s asset was speed. Talk about 2m is nonsense. Bob Olinger was travelling best for two thirds of the race.

    Mullins is less confident about the Gold Cup because he has not had as many top staying chasers.

    Of course GDC is fully effective at the intermediate trip, but stays at least 3m and Mullins has other top class horses for the Champion and Ryanair anyway. Doesn’t have much for the Gold Cup (yet). So unless early next year a stable companion makes a better claim for the Gold Cup… And / or unless something happens to Allaho and other Ryanair prospects – the Blue Riband is imo the obvious target.

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    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    Free bet. Cash out. Wd winners.

    BUY THE SUN

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    Mike007
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    It’s a process of elimination really predicting the target. Mullins has champions in the 2 and 2 and a half race divisions who are young enough to come back and try to win another one, and nothing worthwhile for the Gold Cup.

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