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Thanks for all yr interesting answers – think maybe one of the answers is quite few trained especially in dubai with the very different conditons than here – would be interested to know their training methods – its certainly a stable where inside information would be priceless!!
The way things are going for them, I doubt even that would help….
I am still struggling to come to terms with the fact that they are the leading earners in Britain this year.
http://www.godolphin.com/win2006.asp
The horses that ran races in the UK from this list have made £1.2 million – I really can’t believe it.
I think they are very consistent and probably one of the easiest stables to follow.
The stable has a 30% strike rate this season. I think that ‘speaks for itself’ .. !<br>
Jalil – beaten Lingfield handicapper to a World Champ?
So the $9.7m horse does have an engine.
Beaten favourite in two UK Maidens before scraping home at 2/9, this son of Storm Cat was last seen in this country being beat by an 88 rated handicapper at Lingfield’s AW track.
He is now unbeaten in three starts on Nad Al Sheba’s dirt track, and took the step up in class in his stride as he comprensively won a group two on Thursday evening, recording a faster time than Curlin had the week before.
He now heads off to the Dubai World Cup and is arguably Godolphin’s main hope. But can he beat Curlin? I seriously doubt it, but just seeing this horse line up in the world’s richest race will be an achievent of some sorts on Godolphin’s part – suddenly, they don’t look so stupid for shelling out so much.
Mike
He definitely will become Godolphin’s protagonist for the Dubai World Cup, as I expected Literato to feature last night but he maybe kept for the turf and further into Spring.
It was the inevitable conclusion to Jalil, that if his failures at Lingfield were of any indication, he would be able to perform up to his $9.7 million pricetag on the sand/dirt. The way he performed on first appearance earlier this year proved a very capable horse.
Godolphin won’t charge into the Dubai World Cup like a bull at a gate ala Discreet Cat this time – they may not expect the world of Jalil as he is progressively improving and I think Rick Mettee will be chomping at the bit for his arrival to the States in the Summer.
Jalil did not exactly have a change of heart and decide to race up to the quality expected – the simple realisation of a preference for the sand/dirt. Those who followed the colt would never have jumped off the bandwagon regardless of his poor runs at Lingfield.
The money he cost has never been an issue with me as the arabs can afford anything but most people think that because he cost so much he has to be a world beater, I’ve never gone along with that, he was weak last season and he’s a different horse this season as Bin Suroor had said before his seasonal reappearance, he has to have a crack at Curlin but it may still be too early for him at this stage in his career. I also think he’ll stay further too.
Im as stunned as you are at the horses transformation but always thought or hoped that dirt could be the key to ending his woe. The horse was just too bad to be true and was a laughing stock each time it ran. I often wondered how long Godolphin could take the shame of it but its all worked out for them. Surely they must have known the horse would perform better on dirt as i dont believe the horse’s improvement is all down to physical maturity.
I’d like to say that winning the world cup would make for a good fairytale ending but there’s no such thing unfortunately where $9.7m are concerned.
Maybe the sheikh could tell it as one to future offspring?
Unlike half the Ballydoyle US-bred’s I can see where Godolphin where coming from with regards running him on turf, Storm Cat out of a Champion Turf filly – it’s hardly the most dirt laden pedigree you’ll come across.
Great to see him winning though and fingers crossed they take him back to the states
He is Aftermarkets full brother for christ sake ( i did mention this before), the mares stock get with age. He was a shell at two and ran well over a trip to short for him at lingfield.
I can see him winning a grade one over ten furlongs in the states, he looks a decent place shout at the dwc, but curlin will hack up.
Godolphin ‘take horses away’ from Fabre to join Bin Suroor
Part of the plan says the Godolphin talking head Mr Crisford but surely this is right against the way the trend was seemingly going:
a)The introduction of a new UK Godolphin trainer.
b)It not being as easy to make a case for Godolphin being as successful as it has been in the past.
c)The long standing impression that Bin Suroor’s record with horses he has taken over from other yards being questionable at best.
I ask myself the question: Cutlass Bay in particular was looking like a horse to follow on a sure footed path to greatness but having left Fabre or all people, can I feel as positive about it as I did before.The answer is no I’m afraid.
As a big supporter of owners calling the shots and ultimately doing what they want I’d love to be wrong, but I doubt it.
It’s no surprise.
I just wish they had a european Base for Godolphin with a fixed Trainer in France or England or Where ever. This moving Equine Millions from place to place just doesn’t work imo.
What is the point and what can Godolphin gain from this? Nothing is all I can conclude. People doubt Bin Suroor’s training ability, not that I have any idea what he does. If Cutlass Bay does well with Bin Suroor it will be a case of so he should, as he has now won a Group 1, and if he does poorly, Bin Suroor will just be put under scrutiny a bit more. With this new trainer as well, it’s sure to be interesting.
My heart sank when I heard this. I have backed Cutlass Bay for the Arc and also want to back Rewilding for it. There is no way Suroor is better than Fabre, he’s good but he’s not a master trainer like Fabre. If you employ the best then let him do his job.
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How long before he joins the dishearteningly long list of top class prospects whose careers have been cut short by Suroor?
You’d have thought Kingsfort would have been enough of a lesson.
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