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Now that’s an interesting recruit to the game, especially when you consider the stable. Maybe Nicky was thinking about the post-CH era, maybe this horse has jumped a few hurdles at home and could be an unbelievable NH talent.
He could also finish behind a much cheaper Mullins recruit in the Triumph.
Henderson’s clearly stated he’s not running this autumn and will have a flat campaign in 2025. Yet people are still backing the horse for the Triumph Hurdle.
If planning a flat race campaign would it not have made more sense to put him with a specialist flat trainer rather than NH ?
Henderson will probably be too frightened to run him unless the ground is absolutely perfect.
Glad, according to an earlier version of this article Hendo had planned a hurdle campaign. I’m not surprised by his ‘u-turn’, but unless the ground is perfect he won’t run under either code.
He could have gone to a proper dual purpose trainer with the Flat campaign a priority, but I guess the jumping game is the ultimate goal.An odd one , owner who has won over million in stakes on flat past five years, has run three average horses cast off from her flat trainers over jumps past 5 years for 3k in prize money , pays well into seven figures for a Derby winner and sends him to a jumps trainer for a campaign on flat . That Derby win looked pretty average as well , jockey made dart for best part track and beat a field that looks limited on subsequent runs of the ones seen again. They must know something as it makes no sense , his only win the Derby win .
Maybe Henderson wants to have a few more runners on the Flat, given he is finding it more and more difficult to compete with the Mullins juggernaut.
Meanwhile, Ralph Beckett is set to train a £4.62m Frankel filly bought by Kia Joorabchian…
Yes, and Sir Mark the 2.5m gns sister of Alpinista, though he never met Kia. This is going to be some interesting partnership. I wonder if Kia would approve the three egg spoons in order go get a handicap mark.
Davie, one of the regular paddock side mates at Musselburgh will presumably be interested in this one. His partner is Gemran and he spends a chunk of the year watching racing at the links of Hamburg, Dusseldorf and Hoppegarten among others.
Stamina should be a storng suit, so if they can teach it to jump accurately…
Be interesting to find out under bidders , see if they were some big money flat owner/syndicates .
I wondered that; if it was Flat owners, then they obviously think he can be useful; however, if not, then maybe they’ve overpaid. The Deutches Derby form isn’t exactly top class……
I’m not sure I’d be wanting to put a £1.4M purchase over hurdles……especially if he shows half decent flat form. And he still has his ‘wedding tackle’…..
No, hurdles should be the last option. But, as a German Derby winner he could develop into a nice stayer at four or five and might even win a few races over hurdles. Then you could have a nice NH stallion.
You don’t pay 1.4 million to cut his balls and try to win 6 or 7!!! Champion hurdles just to break even over the years.It was thought better to geld Serpentine and send him to OZ rather than try make a NH stallion . This horse is a half brother to average hurdler , form out that Derby is truely woeful and jockey won it for him .Cost plus expenses , that’s going to be a lot of services at his likely fee to recoup outlay , if he stays healthy .
They must have some very very big bank accounts .
Hope he does do well as deserve it with that level of financial risk . He has no chance whatsoever in any decent Cup race with ammo that Coolmore have to run in them next year and old Rebel Romance has streeted him in his last race so he’s a long shot in Euro GRP 1s too . Maybe Madrid Cup he has a show .Well, he won today. But the price tag contains at least one zero too much. 140k would have been more appropriate. I wonder, if he should fail over hurdles what alternatives might be considered. They could try to embark him on a new Flat career with the right trainer. Ed Walker, the Gosdens or Michael Bell spring here to mind.
Let’s see what he does next time out.
What is the highest rated horse at the moment coming from the flat? Piep Piper? I’ve seen several 100+ rated flat horses, but to become a 160+ rated horse is something else.
The highest rated hurdler from a flat racing background in the UK is Nemean Lion, now on 151 after his recent Windsor win. He raced on thr flat in France for A Fabre/Godolphin, finishing second in the Group 2 Prix Chaudenay on his final start.
Burdett Road is next best on 150 hurdles, 109 flat.
Pied Piper is the highest rated such hurdler in Ireland on 153. Nurburgring, who ran at Royal Ascot as a 3yo, is now rated 150 after his Galway Hurdle win and he’d be next best.
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