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  • #13089
    clivexx
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    String him up…

    Its not good enough.

    Having said that, its a confusing looking turn isnt it?

    My Petra was going best of all too :x

    #256414
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Must have been out with Paul Carberry last night – failed a breathalyser test before racing at Naas!

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    An inexcusable error from an experienced professional, but Wetherby have to accept a degree of responsibility and make the necessary adjustments to prevent this from happening again.

    If you wish to prevent a mistake from occuring again, you must analyse the cause and not the consequence. Barry will deservedly receive a ban for his error, but I hope Wetherby accept they contributed to this catastrophe and alter that part of the course accordingly.

    #256417
    Avatar photoBenAitken
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    Well said Bosranic.

    At least BG was man enough to come on live TV and admit he did wrong. We all make mistakes, if we didnt we would never learn….

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    All reasoned comments on here. Agree with everything said so far. Good that Geraghty did not fudge the issue and apologised. Like to see Wetherby do the same.

    Not that well aquainted with the track. Is there never anything to show jockeys the way?

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    #256426
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    I seem to recall last time I was at Wetherby a number of us thought the entire field had taken the wrong course in one race and it was only after we had a look at the course map we realised the jocks had got it right.

    We came to the conclusion afterwards that it would only be a matter of time before someone did take the wrong course.

    Having said that the jockeys should familiarise themselves with the course layouts and full marks to Geraghty for holding his hands up and admitting his mistake and not making any excuses.

    At the end of the day we are all human and which of us has never made a stupid mistake?

    He has been punished – nobody died – lets hope the circumstances are looked at and issues addressed if there are any.

    #256427
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    At the end of the day we are all human and which of us has never made a stupid mistake?

    He has been punished – nobody died – lets hope the circumstances are looked at and issues addressed if there are any.

    Nail on the head there Paul.

    Paddy Power refunding on My Petra – never miss a good PR opportunity do they!

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    Jockey must take the main blame, but Wetherby need to do something about the turn

    #256444
    davidjohnson
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    I made a last minute decision to go to Wetherby today and must say I’m glad I did as it was a splendid afternoon. My heart well and trult goes out to poor old Ollie Magern.

    Obviously no excuse for what happened with Geraghty and My Petra but it isn’t difficult to understand why it happened. The fences and hurdles in the straight have been realigned so the chase course is on the inside, however down the back, that isn’t the case so it means that on the turns the jockeys are having to criss-cross from one course to get to the other

    In an absent moment, you can understand how Geraghty has thought, I’m on the inside so I’m staying on the inside. A 12-day ban does sound harsh though particularly as by the sounds of it, it rules him out of the last 2 days of the Paddy Power meeting.

    #256446
    crizzy
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    If you think about it we can bet on almost any sport and therefore there will always be a chance a person will make a mistake and cost us money. For example,a runner might run out of their lane or do a couple of false starts etc A GP driver may speed in the pit lane. All ‘kick yourself’ things to do and they could cost a punter alot of money. Is a jockey running the wrong course that different? Or have I missed the point, not for the first time?

    #256451
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    I seem to recall last time I was at Wetherby a number of us thought the entire field had taken the wrong course in one race and it was only after we had a look at the course map we realised the jocks had got it right.

    We came to the conclusion afterwards that it would only be a matter of time before someone did take the wrong course.

    Having said that the jockeys should familiarise themselves with the course layouts and full marks to Geraghty for holding his hands up and admitting his mistake and not making any excuses.

    At the end of the day we are all human and which of us has never made a stupid mistake?

    He has been punished – nobody died – lets hope the circumstances are looked at and issues addressed if there are any.

    With all respect Paul the guy made a genuine mistake and admitted he was wrong and there was no malice intended yet they see it fit to ban him for 12 days racing, depsite the course admitting it should have been marked better.? Have you the remotest idea how much money that can mean to a top jockey?…A bit more than it costs to be caught driving up a one way street I bet. In a court of law such a severe punishment would never be handed out…they would look at all the circumstances who else would be affected by the ban…..His trainer for example and that would be more like 3 days….only my opinion but I think it’s way over the top.

    I bet there’s hardly a jockey riding that would disagree that it was way too harsh.

    The garden is not all rosy in other divisions either. They have jockeys up in arms about the bans they get for trying too hard at the hell hole Kempton all weather and it’s an awful layout. One particular jockey doesn’t even want to ride there unless he really has to and I’m sure there are others.

    They have a trainer sending out blatant non triers/ unfit horses right in front of their noses. Time and time again he gets 3 runs into them in maidens, then getting crazy low handicap marks, gambles the backside off them and wins 2 or 3 handicaps on the trot of selling plate marks.

    All he gets is people like me saying he’s a shrewd man but he is for want of better word blatantly cheating the system.

    Someday we’ll have some real stewards with a better understanding of what it’s like out there in the real world and how difficult a job jockeys have. People who will hold investigations into the blatant handicap cheating that goes on and who can spot a non trier from a mile off.

    They are not evil footballers out there trying to break some poor guys legs but some of the the bans they receive can be just as severe.

    Which races does he miss? The Paddy Power and Greatwood Hurdle is it? too bad if he loses out because he would have ridden the winners……add that to lost revenue for lost mounts and it could be a small fortune.

    Too bad if the yard and owner lose out because they have to put up a jockey who doesn’t know their horse so well and he gets beaten a short head. There punishment reflects on them.

    It also unfair in the sense someone like Sam Thomas (excuse me for using your name nothing personal) makes the same mistake as Barry did, only he doesn’t have any mounts in Graded races over the next 12 days so in effect they could be fining Sam much less that they could be fining Barry which really makes no sense.

    The least that should happen is a ceiling be put on the value of races a jockeys is banned from riding in…but even better ban the bans and use a fixed penalty system that affects only one person…..the person who committed the offense.

    #256452
    davidjohnson
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    Brian?

    #256453
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    Clerical error David cheers! have edited……time for bed me thinks :wink:

    #256458
    apracing
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    A check of the Guide to Penalties issued by the BHA for the guidance of local stewards indicates that 12 days is the ‘entry point’ (i.e standard) ban for the a first offence of taking the wrong course.

    AP

    #256460
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    Just out of interest, are the owners still under an obligation to pay him?

    If I was an owner I may be inclinded to tell him to shove his race fee, as I would for example if I picked up an ill-fitting suit from my tailor.

    #256464
    douginho
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    12 days is a very fair punishment when considered against the longer bans given for jockeys easing up in the final strides of races and losing. Its much the same really. Geraghty made a mistake, said sorry and will have to take punishment.

    I noticed in one of the following races – at the start of the Charlie Hall I think – a man stood with a piece of tape blocking the inside portion of track at the paddock bend.

    #256468
    Majella from Ireland
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    12 days is fair enough.

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