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“Stupidity” is going way, way, too far. Come on. And I disagree regardless (well aware I am in the minority), so that point is an opinion and certainly not a fact.
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“Point is what we do know is his stupidity cost the horse ALL CHANCE of winning.”
That is the key point. Maybe the horse would not have won even if Sheehan had ridden him differently but he gave the horse no chance.
I believe far more races are lost by jockeys going too soon than by jockeys leaving it too late. If Sheehan had left his challenge late but failed to get up by half a length, at least he would have given the horse a chance and it would not have been a bad ride.
Riding as he did, he was lucky to finish in the frame at all. He only got third because the Mullins lunatic fell again.
I do think he could have finished at least second with a more patient ride.
On the other hand he has a five-year 21% strike on the Jamie Snowden trained horses: 105 from 511 rides. I think this quite a good number, considering that the trainer himself only operates at around 17% over the same period. He clearly isn’t that bad, but riding in a G1 race is totally different from riding at Uttoxeter or Ffos Las…
“I do think he could have finished at least second with a more patient ride.”
Potentially. Bit different to calling the bloke “stupid” and a “journyman”.
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What I said was:
Rushing Saint Calvados into the lead before the home straight off an overly strong pace was sheer stupidity from Sheehan and deserves to lose the ride.To repeat:
It is vitally important to remember Saint Calvados barely stays 3 miles.
Being the first
to go for home in earnest (before the home straight)
in a race that was already strongly run.
ie In a race that was already testing stamina at the trip
Sheehan decided to increase that test of stamina still further
by increasing the strongly run race still further
on a horse that barely stays 3 miles.Why is that not “stupid”?
Value Is EverythingThere is no bold type available.
Just trying to emphasise the imporrtant words in an attempt to explain to anyone that does not understand. But have now changed it. No capital letters now TTC. Apologies.
Value Is EverythingNot neccessary either GT. I disagree with you totally. The condescending addition of bold, underline, capitals, or italics, won’t sway me, as I have a brain.
I hope THAT MY OPINION, sinks in. Everyone has their OWN OPINION. And THESE OPINIONS are equal to YOURS. Hey its catching.
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Did Sheehan even ride for Nichols before the King George, just sounds like a trainer power play after the outside jockey rode a poor race…as well as his in house riders
You said TTC: ““Stupidity” is going way, way, too far. Come on. And I disagree regardless (well aware I am in the minority), so that point is an opinion and certainly not a fact”.
Yes, you / anyone can have your “opinion” TTC.
But pace / sectionals – how a horse/s run through a race – is fact.
…And sometimes by looking at those facts something a jockey does becomes obviously “stupid” to do.It is not that Sheehan should have – thought – it wrong to rush Saint Calvados to be the first to go for home in earnest.
Knowing the horse and given the pace of the race…
It is that Sheehan should have – known – it wrong to rush Saint calvados to be the first to go for home in earnest.
Value Is EverythingAgreeing to disagree, not mistaking our own opinions for facts and respecting the rationale others have for their views, even if it seems illogical to us, are underrated qualities IMO.
Just saying.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Be interesting to know the form how will it stand up. Sheehan got it so wrong grade 1.
Henry de Bromhead described Minella Indo as Shook [emotionally or physically disturbed; upset.] when they got him home. Never known a trainer to use the word before regarding a horse.
TTC B&Q sell bigger shovels.Nicholls is prob still getting over there plan of Frodon setting the race up for CDO failing , no mention of frost or Cobden but hey let’s knock the lad out with the stable , Nicholls is a master trainer but what he,s not good at ( at least recently ) is revigorating soured or horses with previous issues , Sheehan will have been riding to instruction , did he disregard them ?
Clan Des Obeaux and Frodon are in different ownership, so I am sure that was no more the plan this year than it was last year.
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