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I was thinking about what the group wrote, not just my contribution.
Smart arse! :)
You’ve been in full-on cheeky mode the last few days, you bad boy.
Just as you would expect from a businessman who’s 2nd biggest competitor has just gone belly up.
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If they did go ahead and ban racing<br> although the corridors are quiet as far as I know,<br> it would be like a lethal dose in this house.
I suppose we could talk about the demise of various sports<br> and possibly kick off with the fox
There is no law (yet) banning someone dressing up in a red coat blowing a hunting horn and joing a number of his mates riding horses around farmers fields taking the dogs along for a bit of excercise. They could call themselves a hunt as that is not outlawed.<br>All they have to do is to declare that they have no intention of going out with the thought of chasing foxes!<br>Just as hard to try and charge someone just holding a mobile phone whilst driving the offence is to actually be caught using it. The police would need to follow along to decide if any foxes were deliberately targeted.<br>
It would give police horses something more interesting to do than plod around the streets.
Would they then be qualified to run in point-to-points?
(Edited by Venusian at 6:21 pm on Nov. 19, 2004)
Slight problem with replacing the point to point "education" with drag hunting. Nobody would run it.
The ban is "hunting with dogs", which is a stupid thing to ban as it is the natural instinct of dogs. So you’ve got your pack of hounds chasing some bloke who sprayed himself with a certain brand of perfume they like or what have you, but they then see a fox / rabbit / cat and oops, huge fine. Who will be willing to take on that kind of liability, and also pay farmers to use their land as I don’t see how they could do it otherwise.
According to today’s Daily Mail, "Blair could be facing widespread civil unrest!!!!"…. Che Guevara,  thou shouldst be living now…. Widespread death and mayhem in Fallujah, eclipsed.
Millions of ordinary Brits felt the agony of the miners and their communities; the downsized workers in manufacturing industry, generally – not to speak of the banks, insurance companies, etc. Then, there ‘s all the young country couples who’ve had to move out of their villages because the houses they might have bought or rented have been bought as second homes – as  a direct result of the politics of the "Countryside Axis" fraternity.
But could the symathy people in town AND country  feel for them, begin to compare with the anguish they feel for the foreclosure of the hunts…!
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I think the point is that the opinions on the rights & wrong of hunting are now only a side issue. Racing, fishing etc will survive because they are big bucks industries.
The main point is that hunting with dogs is soon to be against the law. You cannot just choose what laws you like and break the ones you don’t like. This is a democracy and the majority think hunting with dogs cruel enough to ban. End of story. If you want to change the law you do so within the law.
Some people disagree with the Poll tax but if they do not pay they suffer the consequence. Others think a 70mph speed limit on motorways is too slow but if they exceed it they take the consequence. So be it.
I have a great sympathy with Grimes’s views. Perhaps the Country folk are out of touch with the real issues that the majority of British folk live with everyday. If they put as much effort into raising a fuss over some real social issues as they do about perpectuating a sport that the majority of the Country perceive as cruel then they may have some credibility.
British Soldiers dying in Iraq and all this mob can do is throw teddy bears over such a trivial issue and refuse their land for the Army to train on.
Agree with alot of the previous, but one thing country people get in a muddle over is that because many "townies" like the countryside, they automatically like the ways, prejudices and personalities of the people that live there
WRONG:angry:
You can usually spot those sort of townies – they tend to read Country Living rather than the Angling Times or The Field, and of course their 4X4s are spotless.
living in a swamp(ian:biggrin: ),no one has ever come and ask me if hunting with dogs should be banned
while out shooting pigeon(missing really) one day, a young lady happen to come along on her steed,knowing there was a meet on i asked if she was with the hunt,to which she replied "yes" i then asked do you catch many,she said "no,we usually have a ride round for a couple of hours then go home"the young lady had been with the same hunt for 20 years
Let em carry on they do,nt catch as many as people make out
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I wonder how much money the Countryside Alliance has spent, and will continue to spend, on sponsorship, organising marches, lobbying MPs, writing letters to every paper under the sun, mounting a High Court challenge and so much more.
Imagine if those millions had gone into converting hunts into drag hunts and finding homes for the dogs and horses of those that they couldn’t convert rather than engaging in a Canute-like activity that has just made country issues even more UNpopular with many than they were before.
(Edited by Prufrock at 12:05 am on Nov. 20, 2004)
thedarkknight it was a free vote so it can be attributed to labours massive majority in this case.
I agree with you completely though, labour’s massive majority and the lack of any credible opposition just means Blair can carry on being the smug prick that he is.
tdk –
Labour have been democratically elected by the people of the country to govern the country on their behalf. It is their responsibility and duty to implement such legislation as they see fit to improve the lot of the people of the country, even if some minorities don’t like it.
In this case it is not only the ‘majority of Labour MP’s’ who want hunting with hounds banned, it is the majority of the populace as well.
Democracy in action and, in this case at least, working for the better good of us all.
TDK
theres a massive difference between a "sport" where the intention is to kill an one where the intention is to race
Admittedly i never thought i would see a smoking ban in pubs (:angry: ) but the i do not beilive that a ban on fox hunting is the thin end of any wedge…for one thing, its is an activity dislikedby the majority whereas racing is simply ignored by the majority…
And perhaps it would also be worth reflecting on more liberal laws under labour such as Sunday activity, censorship and licencing hours?
No tax on betting… :)
and bloody great ugly stupid casinos…. :angry:
There’s a disturbing report in today’s Guardian that far more many foxes are being killed by marksmen in Scotland than before the ban up there. The hunts there continue to operate as a "sport" with the purpose  of uneathing the so-called "pests" for execution !. Perhaps, if they massacre enough of them they might become a proected species !
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story … 92,00.html
(Edited by zilzal at 9:47 pm on Nov. 20, 2004)
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