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Just noticed that Fleeting Spirit is 5/1 for this. Can anyone tell me why? I was expecting her to be about 7/4.
I also thought she’d be quite a bit shorter, DJ. Yesterday’s performance stands up extremely well from both a form and a time perspective and she won’t have to carry any penalty at Royal Ascot.
Hardly the calibre of horses she’ll be facing in the KS though. Kingsgate Native, Sakhees Secret, Takeover Target and a seemingly improved Captain Gerrard. Also, Dandy Man wasn’t at his best yesterday and lost a shoe so we can expect better from him too. She can do it, but I think 7/4 would be a little short about her and 5/1 just about fair IMO.
I also thought she’d be quite a bit shorter, DJ. Yesterday’s performance stands up extremely well from both a form and a time perspective and she won’t have to carry any penalty at Royal Ascot.
First Group 2 over course and distance.
Doesn’t she already have the beating of Kingsgate Native and Captain Gerrard on 2-y-o form and whilst I accept the point about Captain Gerrard having improved subsequently, her performance yesterday suggests she has hardly stood still. Personally I don’t think Sakhee’s Secret will run in the Kings Stand either. Tough and likeable as Takeover Target is, we already know how good he is and that he is vulnerable to anything that could run to high 120’s.
Even though smashing the course record probably isn’t as significant as it sounds for the reasons you state, the time when compared to other races at the meeting still stands up very well and looks a low 120’s figure (according to topspeed at least).
the time when compared to other races at the meeting still stands up very well and looks a low 120’s figure (according to topspeed at least).
I rate her time yesterday at 125.
I agree that Sakhee’s Secret looks highly unlikely to take her on at Ascot.
Is there anyway either of you two could see Kingsgate Native reversing the Molecomb form with Fleeting Spirit? OK, it will be his reappearance, but his form was of the highest quality when you consider he won the Nunthorpe and was runner up in the L’Abbaye – surely he must come into the equation? Also, I still think Captain Gerrard has improved enough to make a fight of it with her this season as his Palace House run showed.
Perhaps I am looking for things that just aren’t there!
Kingsgate Native at the moment has to prove he has trained on, we already know Fleeting Spirit has. He also beneffited from an overly-generous weight for age allowance that he won’t get this year.
I am not doubting she is a good filly, just think that there was a lot of hooplah about her victory yesterday and we have to remember the sprinters tend to be a mixed bag and rarely does one horse win two championship races a season. We shall see next month, but she does hold very strong claims.
I was impressed. Particularly by the way she pulled clear of the group she was in, which went slower than desert lord etc who drifted left.
I was at Haydock yesterday and was very impressed with the way in which she won.
Its fair to say it was not a strong Group 2 but she could only win what was on the track at the time and to knock a full second of the course record was pretty amazing in itself.
Ascot should suit her but the Nunthorpe should be her main target for the season and as the Haydock Sprint Cup is normally for horses not good enough for that race she could easily get the double just like Reverance did.
Dont knock it DJ just lump on.
She didnt just win at Haydock she was a completely different league. 5/1 is a great price.
I’m in the Fleeting Spirit camp. Her pure time at Haydock was very good, & that’s before her 4lb penalty is factored in. On form, she should beat all of the British challengers. You really need to look for excuses for the others. In fairness, Dandy Man may have had one Saturday, & he does have an excellent record in the Kings Stand. Not sure he can run as fast as FS though.
I can understand why she’s not a really short price for that race though. There’s the Australians to consider (don’t forget about Magnus either, who finished ahead of Takeover Target last year). Then with Ascot being Ascot, FS could end up being drawn 18 of 18, when it turns out there’s a strong bias to racing up against the stands rail, who knows.
All things considered, I think she’s a very fast filly & a worthy favorite for the Kings Stand.
According to Timeform, she should beat TTarget for almost 3 lenghts. She could beat Sacred kingdom for more than a lenght as well.
I was really surprised to see her available at 8´s after her race the other day with Ladbrokes and I couldn´t resist.
The downside is that she might feel this huge performance on firm track and underperform at Ascot. Other than that, if she runs in the same value, she is a certainty.
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