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  • #1697528
    nwalton
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    Am I right in thinking they are running this on the round course this year?

    #1697533
    stilvi
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    According to the Racing Post, yes.

    A bonkers decision. Fine(ish) if you have 8 runners, but 20? Just turns another race into a lottery. Stiff mile to an easy mile, totally different race. As if the bookmakers need any more help.

    Maybe they can run the Wokingham round a bend? What great fun that would be.

    #1697535
    stilvi
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    Just reading a quote from Christopher Head. He still thinks the race is on the straight course. Obviously, it’s not been very well publicised, unless of course the Racing Post has made a complete horlicks.

    #1697536
    nwalton
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    cheers stilvi, even on ATR website they have last years winner down as CD , when she would not be if on the round course :unsure:

    #1697542
    TheTinMan87
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    They’ve switched them apparently, the Kensington Palace Stakes (handicap) will be on the straight track instead. I actually think it makes sense for once, the Kensington Palace was carnage the last couple of years round the bend with that many runners, realistically the DOC will attract single figures, maybe 12 at most so less of a hostage to fortune? I mean I’d prefer all the mile races to be run on the straight mile personally but they won’t do that.

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    TheTinMan87
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    ATR get that course and distance thing wrong quite a lot I find. Racing Post have it correctly listed that Rogue Millenium is a course and distance winner separately, the C and D are separated by a gap whereas Villanova Queen who took the aforementioned Kensington Palace last year is a course and distance winner, no gap in the CD on the racecard.

    #1697544
    stilvi
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    So you completely change the nature of a Group 2 to accommodate a poor handicap? I stand by bonkers. You run them both on the straight course or leave them as they are.

    #1697607
    nwalton
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    cheers the tin man :good:

    #1697682
    TheTinMan87
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    Oh I agree in many ways Stivli, most of those races they brought in after covid weren’t great additions and that handicap would be the first one I’d chop. :negative:

    #1698152
    stilvi
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    14 Left in so not the small field scenario. Any problems and I suspect this will be bounced back to the straight course. Would be pretty sure a lottery is not what the trainers would have wanted.

    #1698165
    nwalton
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    gone each way 7/2 4 places Rogue Millienum reason EW get 70% of my stake back if falling into the first 4 so that will do for me.

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    Avatar photoKris
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    I’ve not got the double figure prices here, but I went with Running Lion at 15-2

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    greenasgrass
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    I’ll try Ocean Jewel.

    #1698609
    Mike007
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    Rogue Millennium ew 4 places

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Royal Dress has been showing better things this season and was very unlucky in running at Epsom
    The race should be run to suit her although there are a better calibre of opposition I think she is here on merit

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1698644
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Rogue Millenium has a great chance if back to her best form of her previous trainer. Needs to come on her reappearance.

    Laurel is the form filly, but will she run to her best after a year off? Stable says no. But has a great record fresh.

    Ocean Jewel is an improver, but needs to improve again. Will connections regret winning the Lanwades last time out. 3 lb penalty to carry.

    Will the real Running Lion run straight? Has looked a dodgepot the last twice. Refusing to go through a gap last time at Epsom. Bit surprised they haven’t reached for headgear. Maybe they’re planning a change of tactics. Possibly front running – there is no natural front runner in the field so thought about backing her for that reason alone, even with the temperament issue. But has also seemed best on softer.

    Softer ground is imo against a lot of these. I would not be surprised if there are non-runners. Doom, Grgoria, Novus, Orchid Bloom would also like some rain. As well as…

    Royal Dress should have beaten Breege at Epsom, but that was with give. Breege is one who does act on the ground, a good record at Ascot, can race prominently and has 7f speed if turning into a sprint for home.

    Sea The Lady can be prominent. Bit concerned most of her form is over further so I first thought less likely to have the speed. But Head has only had her for one run and could easily show more speed and more ability under his charge… And although most of her recent form is on softer, one of her best runs was on fast ground.

    Magical Sunset – outclassed and out of form.

    Nebras Angel outclassed.

    Julia Augusta seems to be outclassed, ran her best race last time out. Not that far behind Breege at Epsom and front run. More improvement to come from the daughter of Ulysses and with a possible positional advantage… Stranger things have happened.

    Have backed:
    Rogue Millenium at an average price of 3.93, Laurel 6.27, Sea The Lady 15.13 and Julia Augusta 58.4, with a saver on Breege.

    Value Is Everything
    #1698671
    GM23
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    Rogue Millenium for me. Hoping she she can reverse the form with Ocean Jewel in this stiffer test.

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