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    deltaman
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    Gio Ponti is the Anti-Post favourite…2nd to Zenyatta in Breeders Cup….America’s best turf horse, handled pro-ride but Tapeta a differant ball-game..can’t have it as favourite!….Thoughts?

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    I wish Gio would try the turf in Europe or Japan rather than the Tapeta. Tapeta is a totally different surface than the Santa Anita ProRide, and there’s no guarantee that he’ll handle the shipping and the new environmet all that well. I’m hoping for at least one decent prep from him.

    Apparently the miler Furthest Land is off to Dubai as well, even though he did terribly in his comeback race a few weeks back. BC winners historically have rarely won their next race out, so there’s still hope for him. Even though he won the "Dirt" Mile, he can stretch out fairly well.

    With $6 million, maybe $10 million up for grabs, just about every good synth runner in the US are aiming for the DWC. Zenyatta excepted, of course. We’ll likely see her in the Big Cap at Santa Anita, with the Santa Margarita as a prep race.

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    halfwaytoheaven
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    MW, isnt the Big Cap before the Santa Marg?

    #272299
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    You are correct, I think I got my Sans and Santas mixed up :D . Either way she’ll be staying close to home for her first few races of the year.

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    Gio Ponti set for season debut this Saturday,in $150,000 Tampa Bay Stakes, a 1 1/16-mile turf race for four-year-olds and older.. Prep race for Dubai World Cup?

    http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing … a-Bay.aspx

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    A super win to second starter Skysurfers the other night. Some talk that this horse may be pushed towards the Dubai World Cup. I sure hope not. If you haven’t seen it yet tune in to –

    http://www.dubairacingclub.com/

    Go down the page and you’ll see the video section. Skysurfers ( in blue ) five wide facing the breeze at only his second race start and conceding ( not sure how or why ) 6lbs to a Gr1 winner ( in yellow ) with the perfect trail throughout. This is something you’ll rarely see anywhere in the world.

    Ooops almost forgot it’s the third race on the list currently that’s subtitled "CBD Worldmaster Card".

    #278251
    deltaman
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    Godolphin have a huge prospect with Skysurfer and maybe be best run on Super Thursday in the Burj Nahaar, no good running in the World Cup as the race is for horses going for their Swan Song IMO….Gio Ponti?…why is it stiil fav?

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    Not sure about swan song with the breeding season already started. Graveyard more like with many horses going backwards or suffering career/life ending injuries soon after winning the race. Maybe the new Tapeta surface will be kinder to World Cup champs. :roll:

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    Bad news for Mike De Kock as his number 1 hope is out:

    http://www.mikedekockracing.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1922

    Eagle Mountain – retired

    Oh – and Vodka for the land of the rising sun…

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    Two that keep getting shorter for this or who are kept onside by the Magic Sign are – ‘Gitano Hernando’ and ‘Richards Kid’.

    I’d be well disappointed if a well bred class act like ‘Vision D’Etat’ couldn’t better these – even if he is going left handed on the all weather for the first time!

    :P

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    Personally I think Twice Over is probably the bet of the year in this at 8-1 (was 8-1 the other day when i looked anyway). Waitin till after cheltenham to decide how much i’ll stick on that, but dont see him getting beat.

    If Twice Over lines up fit and well for this he wins, plain and simple. Watch this space.

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    Personally I think Twice Over is probably the bet of the year in this at 8-1 (was 8-1 the other day when i looked anyway). Waitin till after cheltenham to decide how much i’ll stick on that, but dont see him getting beat.

    If Twice Over lines up fit and well for this he wins, plain and simple. Watch this space.

    That’s a big shout! – 7’s now…

    Is that with the flying Nippon – ‘Red Desire’ in the field or not?

    If she went here and ‘Buena Vista’ the Sheema Classic then maybe they could double up!

    There’s not much between him and ‘Vision’ on Ascot form…think that you need toe to win this on this surface and as Henry said he just gallops.

    In the Breeders cup – TP Queally bums him AP McCoy style from a long way out! :P

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud_XPH6Eix4

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    There’s not much between him and ‘Vision’ on Ascot form

    Vision d’Etat seems a more likely winner than Twice Over. Not only did he beat him at Ascot, he also beat Presvis in HK, and Twice Over has already been beaten by Gio Ponti once. I think the danger to VdE is indeed the Japanese filly, Red Desire. More like Red Hot Desire…

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    Found this statement by Peslier re: ‘Red Desire’ which is a tad confusing due to his attachment to ride ‘Vision’ in the World Cup – it’s certainly not what was being reported after the race on ATR – in which he was meant to have told connections to go the Sheema route!

    With the win, Matsunaga now has the option of taking Red Desire to either the 12-furlong Sheema Classic as planned or world’s richest race, the $10-million Dubai World Cup (G1), also to be run at the new Meydan course. His decision has not been officially announced, but indications are he will stick to his original plans and run Red Desire in the G1 Sheema Classic over turf.

    Olivier Peslier, who has ridden extensively in Japan, was quoted as saying he felt the filly could take on either race successfully. "Stamina was never an issue as she stays further than this," Peslier said of Thursday’s race, the same distance as the World Cup. "She worked well the other day when I rode her and picked up very nicely. Hopefully, it is the World Cup next," Peslier said.

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    I’d struggle to back the Japanese mare in either race. She’ll face a lot better than an out of sorts Cavalryman and an over the top Vodka on the big night.

    #282005
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    The Japanese horse, Espoir City, sounds like ‘a machine’ to me. If he’s entered. I think you can still get 14s.

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