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    moehat
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    I thought it was Thatcher that encouraged people start living on credit ( but I could be wrong). It was certainly around that time. Apart from my mortgage and buying the only new car I’ve ever had on interest free credit (at the same time having enough money saved to pay for it if I had to) I’ve never used credit. When interest rates were good I used to buy things on my credit card but pay it back every month and have that money in the bank gaining interest. I think the banks have a name for people like me. When people are encouraged to live on credit it doesn’t take much for them to get into serious financial trouble and the economy seems to depend on people buying things they can’t afford. I’ve got to be honest about one thing, though. And that is I don’t understand people saying in tv interviews that they can’t afford to live but are grossly overweight. I know unhealthy food is often cheaper to buy but I don’t understand people allowing themselves to become obese unless they have a medical condition or a mobility problem and then I do sympathise.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    You’re on thin ice (pun completely intended) on the subject of obesity there, Moe.

    There’s loads of research available online to explain that it isn’t just due to gluttony or eating bad food.

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    “Once again the Left are economical with the truth.”

    I hadn’t realised I’m in something called “the Left.”

    I hope it’s free membership!

    That’s exactly what Bailey said and even this government intervened to correct it as the utter banker made himself look even more out of touch with ordinary people than they are.

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    moehat
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    I do struggle with my weight: have done all of my life, but I do think we’re becoming like America where so many people are unhealthy and obese. The pandemic has shown that we need to be far more health conscious. Which doesn’t mean that I’m not aware that a lot of medical conditions are just plain bad luck and I’m at an ages where friends that are getting serious health problems have led incredibly healthy lives. There does need to be more education in nutrition in schools. My local council run gym used to be packed out pre pandemic which shows that if you give people the means to get healthy they will use it.

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    “Ginger for God’s sake get your nose out of the arse of the boss”!

    Bank Of England boss is not my boss, Purwell. :scratch:

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    “That’s exactly what Bailey said”

    No he did not Ian, you missed out the word “Big”.
    There is a big difference between saying “don’t ask for a pay rise” (ie don’t ask for ANY pay rise)… and what he actually said, “don’t ask for a BIG pay rise”.

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    The way the price of everything is shooting up, nothing less than a big pay rise is going to cut it.

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    Fair enough, GT – tbh I kinda went off the newspaper headlines and they went for the dramatic take too.

    I still think it’s unrealistic to expect people to just suck up a drop in annual living standards of up to 7.5% (their prediction).

    Bottom line here is this government will expect everyone to fund the cost of the Pandemic whereas a Labour government would seek to target big corporations for increased taxation.

    Which approach is more popular with the public we will find out in 2024.

    But the public aren’t very bright generally and many would vote for Boris Johnson even if his main election manifesto promise was: “I’m going to shoot you, then, after your funeral, hold an ABBA-themed Party in your house.”

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    Suppose that depends on what is meant by “big”, Richard.
    With inflation likely to be around 6 to 7.5%, imo only pay rises above that figure should be regarded as “big”.

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    moehat
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    Does anyone remember that man that reinforced his loft and did a years shopping in one go. He used to be on the news every year when inflation was really high. I suppose I’m ok because I have my no deal brexit/pandemic stockpile of dog food, pasta and lentils and loo roll.

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    You’ll certainly need the loo roll if all you’re eating is the other three, Moe. 😉

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    There’s inflation and there’s real world figures. My electricity bill is going up by about a third in April. Thankfully I don’t have gas because that’s gone up far more (I’d be interested to hear some real world figures on gas actually because the media only reports averages which are largely meaningless). Petrol is at least 20% more expensive than it was six months ago. Goods in the supermarkets are going up, partly for the aforementioned reasons. Then there’s council tax, NI, I could go on. Personally, I’m not too badly affected by much of this but I really fear for a lot of people. Whatever his exact words were, it’s no surprise people find it insulting.

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    “The pandemic has shown that we need to be far more health conscious.”

    That would be the same pandemic we dealt with by shutting down gyms. And shut down children’s playgrounds, told them if they went out they might kill their granny and then dumped them in front of televisions and computer screens and let them stuff themselves with crisps and fizzy drinks instead of allowing them to play and exercise.

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    Shutting down the economy for months on end and printing lots of money causes tax rises and inflation.

    Who could have guessed? ;-)

    But remember. It Was The Right Thing To Do. We Had No Choice. It Was Worth It To Save Lives.

    Even though it did not save any and will actually cost them in the long run. But we must not mention that.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Because it’s obviously impossible to exercise, free of charge and with no expensive equipment, at home.

    Right, Cork?

    #1581663
    homersimpson
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    You could exercise outside for as long as you wanted in the first lockdown. I regularly went out for 6-7 hour walks.

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    moehat
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    I actually ate more healthily and maintained my weight far better throughout the pandemic than I had done throughout the rest of my life. Realising that obesity made covid more dangerous I lost weight as well, even though I’ve never been obese. I missed going to the gym but you can’t say closing gyms caused people to become unhealthy. How many people take out gym membership and then never go?

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