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Howdy, partner.
There has been a thread(see Derren Brown’s System on page 2 here), but such is the popularity of the forum these days, it has already been relegated to page 2. So you can be forgiven for not noticing it.
Your opinions, illuminating or otherwise, are always welcome.
I watched it last night as well, and thought it was pretty interesting.
However, it was blatantly obvious that he was going to pull the Marodima rabbit out at the end. If I’d just lost 4 grand on Moon Over Miami – if I’d have been Brown I would have pleaded with the woman to back it on the exchanges for the Arkle immediately with the intention of laying it off after Newbury! – I would not have been so calm. I’d have been sobbing – as I was when I lost a couple of quid on MoM in that very same race!
Too obvious. And not real…
The stuff with the pictures was impressive though.
Anyone who thought Derren Brown’s programme was in any way enlightening should be utterly ashamed of themselves. It was, to paraphrase my good cyber-friend Grasshopper, pish.
Here you go…
Could someone please explain how the trick with the 500 photos and the 4 "experts" was done?
Were the experts lying for the sake of TV and a fee?
The fact that they were experts means nothing, as the test had nothing whatsoever to do with racing or betting, and you can also ignore the ‘revelation’ that the numbers on the photographs matched the odds of Derren Brown predicting that particular series of events – if he did indeed know what was going to happen, then it stands to reason that he’d have known what numbers to write on the photographs in the first place, and the odds of him being correct in his prediction would have been the same whatever happened.
With those out of the way, I’ll leave you to ponder the rest
I can’t be assed reading all that!
Suffice to say Pyman was made to look like a total knob!!!
And whether you like it or not, Brown cast a dark shadow of the professional of racing tipsters.
Well just perhaps we can’t be assed to discuss it all again
Mike
Anyone who thought Derren Brown’s programme was in any way enlightening should be utterly ashamed of themselves. It was, to paraphrase my good cyber-friend Grasshopper, pish.
Again, it bears repeating that rory is a man of impeccable taste and good manners.
I can’t be assed reading all that!
Is that because this subject so uninteresting to you you can’t be bothered reading what other people thought of it?
Or is it because your interest in the subject only extends to your own opinion?
Choose carefully…
Steve
No I haven’t explained, Kwai Chang, because I really can’t be assed, but I have made it clear why two parts of the trick need not be considered in order to work out how it was done. Once you strip away the unnecessary elements, it becomes far easier, as it does if you listen to what Derren Brown says during the programme…
Though I watched the program when first shown and read all the posts in the other thread (and now this one) it occurred to me after all the fuss died down, that Derren Brown was doing to the viewer exactly what the National Lottery and the Scoop Six does to the population as a whole every week.
Namely that no matter how small the chance of success, the more people you can get involved with different combinations the more chance one will be a winner. Publicise the winners and get everybody believing ‘That could be me.’
Brown had nothing to say about betting systems at all ~ he merely repeated a particularly ancient and well known scam. The part of the show in the studio was potentially interesting but was essentially abandoned for the tedious and unnecessary background to the "tipping" feature. It could undoubtedly have been interesting if done well, but it wasn’t and it wasn’t.
It had little, if anything, to do with racing.
His system, as he pointed out was a "belief system."
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
Derrin Brown calls himself an "illusionist" and an "entertainer"
In his show he delivered both in bucket loads.
In short – I thought the show was brilliant. Quality entertainment.
I think the ones who are slagging it off took the programme and take themselves a little bit too seriously
Surely it was all just a bit of fun?
We are a bit too quick to knock things in our game – especially if an "outsider" dare do anything different with our sacred sport.
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