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after all, some of the best European horses have a crack at their Championship races
And their connections get vilified for it.
Next year, Breeders Cup is held on an artificial surface at Santa Anita, so we might be able to watch horses like Soldier of Fortune taking on the Dirt horses in Classic
This would probably be even be better though
Simon Rowlands
If the Americans are serious about calling the fixture "The World Thoroughbred Championships" then they should be prepared for it to be staged outside their back yard occasionally. I’d like to see a double-header of turf races at Ascot and polytrack races at Kempton.
Yes, Kempton
It’s one of my pet hates that broadcasters (Rishi Persad fr’instance) lob out "best in the world" adulation so freely.
It’s all so meaningless that it’s futile. Horses peaking at different time of the year, different surfaces and course types all combine to make these labels plain ludicrous.
,,,,, It’s just educated guesswork and totally ignores and demeans the best in Australia, Japan and the Southern Hemisphere who are never even condsidered unless they come over to Europe or the BC.yes Peter and I agree with you here, very much my sentiments.
Hi Mikky,
lol…a touch wry there Mike, but yeah I should know better
hi EW,
lol…Kempton wouldn’t be my first choice I’m afraid. I would prefer if they kept the BC to just 2 tracks, one East Coast like Belmont and the other West Coast, like Hollywood or Santa Anita and forget all the in betweens.My favourite race of Curlin’s this year was in defeat and I admit to bias here, as the Belmont Stakes was just terrific to watch and made some history with the filly winning [Rags to Riches] and Curlin put up such a good shot over 12f, never giving an inch. This was my race of the season even though it would be one where he got a lower rating I imagine. In fact I wonder if this defeat put his true merit into perspective a little more.
You don’t often see a filly against a colt at the best of times so I just loved that race.Also enjoyed the Jockey Club finish, the Classic unfortunately not his fault but would rather forget, but that Belmont was worth seeing by anyone with a passing interest I would have thought.
I’ve just seen your above post and actually this may be a turn in the right direction especially for those from outside the U.S as it will present a more level playing field on polytrack, so more might make the journey. It was noticeable this year, and very sensible as it turned out, that the French and just about everywhere else gave it a resounding thumbs down.
Though the different tracks add interest, I’d probably agree with the idea of keeping BC to a couple of tracks
The Belmont was cracking race UM , i thought the distance and the hard race Curlin had prior would find him out, acted accordingly
and i think it probably just did, but thats not to take anything away from Rags to Riches though, who had previously shown in races like the Oaks that she was a very good horseafter all, some of the best European horses have a crack at their Championship races
And their connections get vilified for it.
Vilified is a bit strong Gareth. I haven’t read every post on here, but I think the main discussion has been around whether some horses should have ran or not – and afterall, this is just people’s opinions.
To vilify someone is to have a go at them in a very negative way, so that they can be seen as bad. I haven’t read any posts of that nature, but apologies if there are some that I have missed.
Over the years it has been great to see the European horses go over and have a crack at the Breeders Cup, and it would be great if the Americans could do the same and send some of their horses over to race in Europe.
Mike
I’m not talking exclusively about here – I actually think both sides of the argument have been pretty well represented here.
I’m not talking exclusively about here – I actually think both sides of the argument have been pretty well represented here.
OK apologies.
Yes I know what you mean then, sorry I thought you were just talking about on here.
I’m sure if the American horses did come and have a crack at some of our top races they would probably cop a lot of stick over the pond, but I’m sure it would be great for the sport.
Mike
I’m not sure if I’ve made one or two rather negative posts about them Mike which might be termed vilification, if so then hands up on that one
…lol…like yourself, sometimes you have to state your feelings.EW
by the way and just to say that I have to admire your dogged determination on the other threads to get your point across. You certainly don’t give up easily, rather like young Curlin here.
From IFHA
CURLIN (USA) [128] is now ranked the top horse in the world on Dirt and joint second overall following his outstanding victory over HARD SPUN (USA) [121] in the Breeders’ Cup Classic
If Curlin comes over for the Arc, how difficult will he find the transition of the American way of training and stabling to what happens over here?
They obviously have an Ace up their sleeve in that Cash knows every blade of grass at Longchamp and in Chantilly but as for stabling is there an equivalent stable in Chantilly (i don’t know the stable locations at all) to the one in Newmarket where the American horses go-or is Curlin going to have to go onto the public highway to get to the gallops etc?
If he comes, he loses. Sheer arrogance to think he can translate dirt form to top class turf.
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It could be argued, Zorro, that it’s arrogant in the extreme to assume that the Americans don’t have a clue about their horse’s ability to adapt.
Curlin should adapt pretty well in the same way that the last USA horse who ran a big race in the King George a few years ago did.
This was based on the fact that going right handed would be a huge bonus as it would take all the pressure of his near left leg due to all US races as you know being left handed.
Id have though the Eclipse would be a good race to go for or maybe a crack at the Champion Stakes at Newmarket.
If he comes, he loses. Sheer arrogance to think he can translate dirt form to top class turf.
Ruddy ell, who rattled your cage!!
I hope he does come over.
More money’s always useful 
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