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- October 30, 2010 at 01:28 #325383
Wit,
Should anyone who is a member of the ROA (as I am also) resign forthwith if they disagree with the proposed strike, in order to avoid supporting it (implicitly or perhaps even explicitly) through the Articles of Association you have outlined?
The ROA’s Articles do provide that:
“At the termination of membership the Ownership of all rights licensed shall automatically revert to the Association member.”
and that
“An Association member may retire from membership on giving to the Chief Executive not less than one month’s written notice…..”
Bit of a tangent maybe, but I am curious as to just when that Article 15 (“Licence of Members’ rights”) first showed up in the ROA’s constitution.
Any change to Articles has to be filed at Companies House within 15 days.
However that Article was not in the set dated 1 July 2000 (filed January 2001), and then it suddenly appears in the next set filed dated 25 June 2010 as an already-established provision.
Nothing to show though just when between 2000 and 2010 it was added, which would be interesting in the context of the various events of that decade.
October 30, 2010 at 08:35 #325397There was a further totally unnecessary clash on Thursday when the last at Stratford (5.25) was run at exactly the same time as the first at Wolves (5.20) due to a problem with the photo finish equipment at Wolves. Next race was not till the next at Wolves (5.50) It’s laughable, what are Roy & Coward doing about it?
Maybe this could have been avoided altogether if they’d sent either Judge Smith or Judge Kemp to Wolves as both have resorted to not calling a photo even though the winning distance has been only a nose.October 30, 2010 at 09:34 #325403Probable line-ups for Monday night’s debate:
Ralph Topping representing the BHA
Paul Roy representing Betfair
Paul Struthers representing the bookmakers

Thanks for that, Wit.
Not been sold on the ROA from the outset, when they bombarded me with mail warning me of all the dire consequences of not joining their organisation, through the various posturings in recent months, to now, when they look as if they will be throwing my weight around for their own ends without a single "by your leave".
Will give it a few days to play out further before deciding what to do.
October 30, 2010 at 10:39 #325408Actually Wit I don’t think the change of Articles was anything to do with strikes. Rather, I think it relates to the period when it was thought that there were rights in data which owners and the BHB could commercialise.
I’m sure a strike is not going to be successful or achieve anything
November 1, 2010 at 12:44 #16634Press release from BHA –
<i>JOINT STATEMENT FOLLOWING THE 50TH LEVY SCHEME BEING REFERRED TO GOVERNMENT FOR DETERMINATION
A joint statement from Ian Barlow, Chairman of the Racecourse Association, Paul Dixon, Chairman of the Horsemen’s Group and Paul Roy, Chairman of the British Horseracing Authority:
“Since March, when Racing s_ubmitted its proposals for the 50th Levy Scheme, we have sought to negotiate a settlement under the new process and timetable established as part of the previous Levy agreement.
“The Bookmakers’ Committee response was not received until July, several weeks behind the timetable, and was rejected by the Levy Board over six weeks ago. They were told by the Independent Members of the Levy Board to come back with a much improved offer, but they never did.
“On current forecasts, their proposal would mean a contribution of some £50m to the Levy in 2011, down from well over £100m just two years ago.
“Racing regrets the need to go to Determination but this decision was forced by the Bookmakers’ Committee and its steadfast refusal to make any changes to its initial submission. It was very apparent that the only way Determination could be avoided was if Racing agreed to their wholly unacceptable initial submission.
“This Determination is vital to the future of Racing and the sport has united to campaign for a fair Levy. There needs to be a level playing field across all betting platforms. This means the offshore betting industry paying Levy, exchange betting being dealt with properly, scrapping the distortive threshold rules that currently exempt more than 60% of betting shops from paying the full rate of Levy and reinstating payments for customers in Britain placing bets on overseas racing.
“We welcomed the Government’s recent announcement that they will they retain and modernise the Levy to ‘ensure that funding for Racing from betting is fair and collected from as broad a base as possible’ and to remove Government from the determination process. We are committed to working with them to achieve this objective.”
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November 1, 2010 at 12:51 #325724…the sport has united to campaign for a fair Levy.
No, it hasn’t.
You and some chums united for a Levy on terms that many within racing do not support.
The only true unity I have seen of late is the poll on here in which 95% of respondents said Paul Roy should resign.
Stick that in your pipes.
November 1, 2010 at 13:03 #325726The old argument for a share of foreign racing profits creeps up again.
Yet funnily enough no mention of a share of the racecourses profits.
November 1, 2010 at 13:59 #325736This statement is so predictable , turn the lights out chaps there’s nobody paying the slightest bit of notice and you and your schemes are doomed , binned , and soon to be forgotten
roll on the rollover …..
Ricky
November 1, 2010 at 14:07 #325738I bet the Government are delighted………..I mean, it’s not as though they’ve got anything else to do
November 1, 2010 at 14:18 #325740It would be nice to feel that the racing top dogs have some sort of five year plan. But in the fact their public pronouncements are based more on a five year olds plan.
If you don’t get what you want by shouting, throw yourself on the floor and scream ‘Its not fair’.
Interesting to note that the threat to strike just as the main NH season gets under way, is led by men that rarely if ever have a runner in that sphere.
AP
November 1, 2010 at 14:30 #325742Isn’t no improved offer from bookmakers just a way of saying it will be about £60M. Can you honestly see the Tories or even the corrupt phoney socialists not siding with big business.
I can’t belive that the media rights are only £4.8k per race (I think thats what I read!). BF should ask for fast pics for IR and pay say £3K a race themselves. If Bf think their racing markets aren’t going to go south with slow pics and £1,600 prize money they are dreaming. £1.6BN company and they can’t afford RUK pics!!! You couldn’t make it up really!
Oh and get the horsemans group to boycott races below a certain value. No horses then no media rights for the courses! Simples innitt
November 1, 2010 at 14:32 #325743I forgot can I have £100K pa plus a motor and a pension for my contribution to racing 4 Change
November 2, 2010 at 10:20 #16644Jim McGrath has announced that he has resigned from his role as independent director at the BHA – Here’s his official press release.
"After considerable thought, and effective from October 31, I resigned from my position as one of two independent directors on BHA.
"Since BHA evolved, collectively we debated then generally found a way forward on the many and varied issues faced.
"For more than a year, I was tasked by the board of chairing the Racing Committee, which of course deals with much of the minutia of our racing.
"As such, I found myself completely at odds with most of the recommendations and proposed changes affecting the 2011 Racing Programme, suggested and due to be implemented by RFC.
"In fact, I am both angry and concerned at many of these. Nonetheless, I do understand the board felt that, overall, it had to be supportive of RFC and, notwithstanding my personal views, recognise its right to that conclusion.
"Therefore, bearing in mind the strict protocol and standards by which BHA operates, I felt the board should find someone more in step with the aims of RFC and so, having discussed the situation with Paul (Roy, BHA chairman) early last month, we both agreed I would stand down from all BHA involvement from the end of October.
"I would like to thank everyone concerned for the opportunity to have been a part of BHA under Paul, who so far as I am concerned is a fine chairman.
"Some of the issues faced in my time have been challenging, not least the current funding crisis and in their efforts to solve this and indeed whatever faces them from hereon in, I wish Paul, Nic (Coward, chief executive) and the team well."
November 2, 2010 at 10:57 #325888Another nail in the coffin of RFCs credibility- the Ascot insanity will be a disaster and JMc doesn’t want to be associated with it.
November 2, 2010 at 11:02 #325889RFC doesn’t have any credibility. An utterly useless, pointless group. The sooner the arrogant lose their arrogance and disband this group the better.
November 2, 2010 at 11:06 #325891Thank you for this link – significant that it is Nick Luck and not Mr Wood who’s stood up to be counted.
There ya go, Pinza.
November 2, 2010 at 11:07 #325892Greg Wood will not upset the BHA, he gets their stories first.
Oh dear.
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