Computerised Form Books

[Mike H]

Has any members used computerised form books ie sportsbook,CFB,Visual form book etc.

Ive used most computer programs over the past 20yrs (started with spectrum,boxform,coursewinner,brimadon,etc),with limited success

Any views would be greatly appriciated.

[peter]

Hi Mike, the merits of computer form books may well prove superior to many paper based ones – you know I’ve just done an assignment on them – systems can get god damn complicated at times, can"t they? However decent quality, simple and straight forward ones I feel can offer great success. I would heavily recommend Surewin Racing Club – their systematic plans have provided good profits for at least two years. In addition the program, Racing System builder provides a mass of systematic variables to test and verify. Hope this helps and gives you some profits…all the best.

[Mike H]

Thanks Pete for your views,you do need something simple, but you also need something in depth and this is where computerised form books come into there own, cutting down on time studying,all the differant companys that run there formbooks have differant methods of evaluating the speed figure and can you take a speed figure alone, I doubt it!.<br>A lot companies selling racing prediction programs just use a fudge factor points system which can be done on a calculator, instead of paying exorbitant prices for there programs.<br>I would like to try RaceXpert, but Peter that runs runs it, want a seperate payment for the database(£67) which is a absolute liberty considering sportsbook,database etc come with the subscription.<br>All the best to you Mike

[tttracing]

Hi Mike – welcome!

I would second Peters recommendation of RaceSystemBuilder – the depth of stats and ability to combine them make the software second to none in my oppinion.

Price is an issue and I know some people are put off by that – I have the full professional versions and I wouldnt be without them!

[Mike H]

Hi ttt racing

 Thanks for reply, have you ever used any Computer form books, be interested in your accessment if you have.

Regards

Mike

(Edited by Mike H at 3:46 pm on April 4, 2003)

[Mike H]

Hi ttt racing

Thanks for reply, yes RSB is a great tool, very expensive I know, I  tried it some years ago and yes it enables you to set your own variables, its a very good piece of software if you can afford the full version.

Can I ask you, do you make enough over the year to cover the cost of the software and perhaps make a profit over the year?

King Regards

Mike

[dave jay]

RSB .. is okay, but it relies alot on it’s own ratings and tends to push you towards subscribing to their RSB fast service which costs you every time you use it.

Saying that, I have the full version and would say that it’s a good investment .. you should definitely get it.

[tttracing]

Hi Mike,

I run my racing interests as a full time business and (as with any other information driven business) include the costs of data acquisition and data manipulation into my cost base.

I havnt tried computer form books in any depth because I have built up my own database and I manipulate that data with my own software.

I would recommend you visit the Raceform Interactive web site as they are giving away a free demo disk.

Why dont you get a hold of a copy and critique it for us here? A Mike exclusive :)

[tttracing]

I agree with your assessment Dave in so far as the ratings that you can analyse are limited.

Now, if RSB acquired the rights to use the RP ratings – so you could check against PM, TS, PD – or linked up with a Massey or Taylor – then you would create a best seller.

I still find it in its current form an indispensible tool – it allows me to determine value odds and to determine when a price is too short to take.

[dave jay]

I had a go with the Raceform Interactive disk .. absolute nightmare. Maybe it was just me, but I found it next to useless and to get it up and running was going to cost loads .. There is another one called ‘DGA Pro-Punter’ you might want to have a look at Mike .. I used that when it first came out in the mid eighties. I think they’ve up-dated it now.

[Mike H]

Hi Dave

 I had the same problem with raceform, a nightmare kept crashing, I was thinking of subsciping but that put me right off.

I have used Pro Punter again like you in the 80’s but inputting data was tedious as was all of these programs in the 80’s, again they have updated a lot of these programs now(the ones that are still surviving,most of them were a complete rip off,simular to most tipsters now).<br>A program I like is called racing sense it is  based on a system called Solidus by Alan Towney, a chap called Mick Johnson runs it and calls himself Simple Software, and he is still in buisness and only charges a tenner a month for daily updates, I had quite a few winners last year, coincidentally Speedmaster uses the Solidus System.

Regards

Mike H

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