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Is it April 1st? I’m just reading how a sport that is on its knees as a result of being in bed with the bookies has gone to some marketing consultants for advice.
The advice they recieved: collaborate with the bookies.
Is it April 1st? I’m just reading how a sport that is on its knees as a result of being in bed with the bookies has gone to some marketing consultants for advice.
The advice they recieved: collaborate with the bookies.
You know what they say, Glenn – if you can’t beat them join them
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Just read this.
http://www.sportbusiness.com/news/16938 … aign=may12
What the feck…..Ben and Brian?!?
Whilst I applaude that they are addressing the sports needs – not quite sure what has been learnt just yet.
Think I will continue to enjoy myself in the bar with the Brians for the time being. By the time the Ben`s learn the trade I may have thrown a seven. What am I doing ?,I`m talking like them. "assetts to die for"? and only 396000 of us. Anyway gives the paper something to talk about while we are in the flat desert
I wouldn’t really encourage anyone into horse racing. It’s one of these things you need to find for yourself. Why would i want to encourage someone into a sport where nobody tells you much.
I’m all for it. Much better than giving 10 million a year to Magnier and the Sheikhs which is what would have happened if the Sovereign Series ever got off the ground.
This more inclusive approach at least tackles 7 different aspects of racing that can be improved upon, granted the 7 different committees does sound ominous but at least they’ve been set a 2 month deadline so we should have a better idea of what’s going on in the near future.
I’ve always said racings broad mass appeal are as betting medium and a social day out, lets hope they concentrate foremost on those 2 areas.
Alan Lee, Greg Wood, Chris McGrath all give their thoughts in todays papers.
Here is a little longer version.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/ma … rse-racing
Mark
Value Is EverythingI’m all for it. Much better than giving 10 million a year to Magnier and the Sheikhs which is what would have happened if the Sovereign Series ever got off the ground.
This more inclusive approach at least tackles 7 different aspects of racing that can be improved upon, granted the 7 different committees does sound ominous but at least they’ve been set a 2 month deadline so we should have a better idea of what’s going on in the near future.
I’ve always said racings broad mass appeal are as betting medium and a social day out, lets hope they concentrate foremost on those 2 areas.
Alan Lee, Greg Wood, Chris McGrath all give their thoughts in todays papers.
By giving 10 million to Magnier & Sheikhs Cav, I guess you mean the prize money that goes to Group 1 races.
If Group 1 races in GB carried even less money than they do now, then connections of the best horses would look to better endowed races abroad. This would mean the downgrading of British racing (some might say another downgrading). Eventually British trainers would not be able to attract the best horses. To attract the best horses British racing can not rely on "tradition" forever.
Mark
Value Is EverythingIf Group 1 races in GB carried even less money than they do now, then connections of the best horses would look to better endowed races abroad.
I disagree – the "prize" for winning a Group 1 is the extra stallion/broodmare value and not the money, which is a pittance compared to the stallion fees etc.
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Brian and Ben the Flower Pot men
Guess Bill retired.JP just funded multi million pound scholarship scheme to benefit students from disadvantaged backgrounds.
If they want to change the face of racing they will have to dig a lot deeper into their pockets than spending a lousy 250K.
If Group 1 races in GB carried even less money than they do now, then connections of the best horses would look to better endowed races abroad.
I disagree – the "prize" for winning a Group 1 is the extra stallion/broodmare value and not the money, which is a pittance compared to the stallion fees etc.
Think it will be a drip drip effect David with every year connections of one or two more horses going elsewhere. It may well take 20 or 30 years, but eventually, the prestige and stallion / broodmare value of a British win will disappear. We already rely on Coolmore, Sheikh Mo and Co to send the best horses over. If British racing was worth significantly less that may change. We already have horses like Presvis concentrating on a foreign field and trainers not bothering with Guineas preps because "it is a long season". If British Group 1’s were worth even less and Breeders Cup / far east potential autumn targets worth even more; they might eventually have a mid-season break. Far eastern and US races could at some point have equal significance for stallion / broodmare values to our breeders. So if one is worth significantly more than the other, what do you think will happen?
Mark
Value Is EverythingI would reasonably suggest that the only thing Mini-driving funsters called Ben need is a bit of a twatting.
Mike
I would reasonably suggest that the only thing Mini-driving funsters called Ben need is a bit of a twatting.
Mike
Mike, your comments represent "straight talking" and are "confidently" put. I’d even go as far to say that they’re "a bit edgy", "instantly recognisable" as your handiwork, though "good fun"…
…or should I call you Ben
No evidence to suggest UK pattern prizemoney is decreasing Ginger, on the contrary its increased for 2009.
Presvis is a gelding.
13 of the last 20 Guineas (1000&2000) were won without a Guineas prep.
The Breeders Cup is drug free and run on polytrack, a surface where the European Turf horse can now show his true ability to the US breeding industry, hence the increased European interest.
Climatic, seasonal and logistical considerations will never make Australia and Hong Kong any more than beginning/end of season add ons for the biggest European breeders. The evidence suggests the reverse is happening, foreign horses are coming to Europe to be made as stallions Haradasun a good example.
The Maktoums have a massive and endearing passion for European horseracing, their forays into the Far East, Australian and US racing hasn’t come at the expense of their European interest in the sport. Dont think Aidan O Brien will be looking for a new house anytime soon, Juddmonte maintain a strong commitment to UK racing.
From a quality perspective the UK pattern is in good shape.
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