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Hi Ile de B.
don’t suppose your Irish contact would be able to shed any light on the following ?
Irish Derby 1868 MADEIRA W Holland (Bourke)
Irish Derby 1871 MAID OF ATHENS W Williams (aka Joseph Lyons)
Irish Derby 1873 KYRLE DALEY W Williams (aka Joseph Lyons)
Irish Derby 1877 REDSKIN Capt. Stamer Gubbins
Irish Derby 1887 PET FOX HE Linde
Irish Derby 1892 ROY NEIL RM Delamere (aka George Moorhead)
Irish Derby 1893 BOWLINE Matthias A Maher
Irish Oaks 1895 SAPLING C Hannan
Irish Derby 1898 NOBLE HOWARD Sebastian M Nolan
Irish Oaks 1898 SABINE QUEEN FF MacCabe
Irish Derby 1899 OPPRESSOR TL Plunkett
Irish Oaks 1899 IRISH IVY Captain H Peel
Irish Oaks 1901 ROYAL MANTLE PJ Brophy
Irish Oaks 1902 MARIEVALE W Dunne
Irish Oaks 1904 COPESTONE FILLY James Lonsdale
Irish Derby 1905 FLAX PARK PJ Dunne
Irish Derby 1906 KILLEAGH Joseph Lowry
Irish Oaks 1906 JULIET Mrs Sadleir-Jackson
Irish Oaks 1909 FREDITH Joseph Cooper
Irish Derby 1909 BACHELOR’S DOUBLE Joseph Lowry
Irish Derby 1910 AVIATOR James Lonsdale
Irish Derby 1911 SHANBALLYMORE John Kelly
Irish Oaks 1911 TULLYNACREE J Hutton
Irish Oaks 1913 ATHGREANY P Murphy
Irish Oaks 1914 MAY EDGAR P Cullinan
Irish Derby 1916 FURORE H Ellis
Irish Oaks 1916 CAPTIVE PRINCESS W A Wallis
Irish St Leger 1916 CAPTIVE PRINCESS W A Wallis
Irish Derby 1917 FIRST FLIER JJ Parkinson
Irish St Leger 1917 DOUBLE SCOTCH WA Murphy
Irish Derby 1919 LOCH LOMOND Miss E Cowhy ( EC Crofts )
Irish 2000 1921 SOLDENNIS CL MacKean
Irish St Leger 1921 KIRCUBBIN Major D Dixon
Irish 1000 1922 LADY VIOLETTE A Le Roch
Irish Oaks 1922 MISS HAZELWOOD Capt. B Daly
Irish 1000 1923 GLENSHESK Capt. Dixon
Irish St Leger 1923 O’DEMPSEY H Baillie
Irish 1000 1924 VOLTOI JJ Macaulay
Irish 1000 1925 FLYING DINAH Capt. GF Dunne
Irish 2000 1925 ST DONAGH AB Coyle
Irish 1000 1927 WEST INDIES Lady Mahon
Irish Oaks 1928 HAINTONETTE JA Hirst
Irish 1000 1929 SOLOPTIC CL MacKean
Irish Oaks 1929 SOLOPTIC CL MacKean
Irish 1000 1930 STAR OF EGYPT GA Allen
Irish 2000 1930 GLANNARG P Fitzgerald
Irish St Leger 1931 BEAUDELAIRE Count J McCormack
Irish 1000 1932 PETONI DJ Cogan
Irish 2000 1932 LINDLEY Capt. GF Dunne
Irish Oaks 1932 SANTARIA EJ Hope
Irish 1000 1935 SMOKELESS RJ Duggan
Irish Oaks 1935 SMOKELESS RJ Duggan
Irish Oaks 1938 CONVERSATION PIECE Lady Furness
Irish St Leger 1938 OCHILTREE Lord Talbot de Malahide
Irish 1000 1940 GAINSWORTH EA Robinson
Irish 1000 1943 SUNTOP GJ Ellis
Irish Oaks 1943 SUNTOP J McVey jr
Irish St Leger 1943 SOLFERINO J McVey jr
Irish 1000 1944 ANNETTA PE Burell
Irish St Leger 1944 WATER STREET MS Carroll
Irish 2000 1945 STALINO John J Blake
Irish Derby 1946 BRIGHT NEWS J McVey jr
Irish Oaks 1947 DESERT DRIVE GY Kinnaird
Irish 2000 1948 BEAU SABREUR AB MacNaughton
Irish St Leger 1948 BEAU SABREUR AB MacNaughton
Irish 1000 1949 SUNLIT RIDE Capt. GA Clark
Irish 2000 1949 SOLONAWAY Dick Duggan
Irish 2000 1950 MIGHTY OCEAN Dick Duggan
Irish St Leger 1951 DO WELL J Lunn
Irish St Leger 1953 SEA CHARGER Martin F Molony
Irish Oaks 1960 LYNCHRIS Mrs EM Fawcett
Irish St Leger 1960 LYNCHRIS Mrs EM Fawcett
Irish St Leger 1961 VIMADEE Mrs T McCairns
Irish 1000 1962 SHANDON BELLE S Abbott
Irish St Leger 1964 BISCAYNE Mrs J Reid
Irish St Leger 1967 DAN KANO S Raccah
Irish 2000 1968 MISTIGO F Feeneyrealise there’s a lot there and it’s cheeky to ask but have tried a few e-mails to some Irish racing websites with no luck.
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I.Hi ,
anyone know the colours carried by Ardoon , winner of the ’75 Royal Hunt Cup and ’76 Queen Anne Stakes & Hungerford Stakes please ?owned by F Feeney who had Mistigo – 1968 Irish 2000 Guineas winner.
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I.Hi Isinglass
Mr F Feeney – MAUVE, YELLOW cap with MAUVE hoops
from an old racecard and Daily Express of Royal Ascot 1975!
Interesting to see Andromeda Galaxy’s debut for Warren Place at Gowran Park the other day – finally answered the question of which silks the UK based Wildenstein horses would carry.
Good to see the version with light blue epaulets make a return, made most famous by the great Buckskin. Shame the Racing Post are off the pace and show the normal Royal Blue, Light Blue Cap version on their racecards.
Hi, I am new to the board. I was just wondering if anyone had any photo’s or video’s of Le Bavard? I have a mare by him and I have been searching for shots of her sire but, can’t seem to find any :/
I also can’t find any of her racing however, she wasn’t very good :/
Her race name was: Sillyme (IRE)
While researching colours for my site (http://www.jockeycolours.com) I have been puzzled by the change in orientation of the sash that must have occurred at some point in the last decades of the twentieth century.
In the B&H Colours Book published in 1973 a sash is inavariably shown going from the right shoulder to the left waist, but by 2004 when the (horrible) Cartier Colours book was published, sashes always go from the left shoulder to right waist.
My own memories of going racing since the early eighties suggest that a sash has always gone down and across from left to right, but this may be false as no doubt I didn’t think such things were important when I was so much younger!
Can anyone enlighten me as to when (and better still why) this change was made? I have asked Weatherbys (owners’ desk) and they suggested asking Allertons as they ahd been making colours throughout this period. In turn Allertons said (and it seems logical) that Weatherbys were the people to ask!
For an extra point, does anyone know when the name "sash" was introduced, as earlier records (e.g. Pall Mall Gazette Colours book of 1912) always refer to this as a "belt".
Hi
I came across this thread in my quest to find some silk colours. I was trying to create something for my brother, a keen racing enthusiast especially the jumps, for xmas which would show all the Cheltenham gold cup winners silks from 1970- present. I have been through every page of the thread (fascinating by the way) and now know all the colours for virtually every flat race run however could not find a list for the chelt Gold cup.
I appreciate its a bit cheeky to just come on and ask for the list if anyone has one but its quite hard to find the further you go back.
thanks in anticipation if anyone can help otherwise brother doesn’t get a xmas present.Sillyme – struggling to find a picture of Le Bavard, sorry. I think he finished 2nd to Sagaro in the ’75 Ascot Gold Cup if that helps anyone.
Samboca – hope the following helps – everyone else , feel free to modify/correct as appropriate.
1970 L’Escargot chocolate and light blue hoops light blue cap
1971 L’Escargot chocolate and light blue hoops light blue cap
1972 Glencaraig Lady red blue striped slvs qtd cap
1973 The Dikler white red sash,collar & slvs qtd cap
1974 Captain Christy pink maroon cross of lorraine qtd cap
1975 Ten Up yellow narrow black hoop & cap
1976 Royal Frolic primrose dark blue collar,cuffs & cap with primrose spots
1977 Davy Lad brown & cream check brown slvs & cap
1978 Midnight Court purple & yellow qtd emerald green slvs
1979 Alverton green and pink check pink slvs and cap1980 Master Smudge light blue red diamond qtd cap ( not 100% sure)
1981 Little Owl green white hoop red slvs & cap
1982 Silver Buck black white braces red cap
1983 Bregawn light green yellow X belts white cap maroon spots
1984 Burrough Hill Lad kingfisher blue orange & black hooped slvs orange cap
1985 Forgive ‘n Forget yellow orange spots orange cap
1986 Dawn Run red black hoop armlets & cap
1987 The Thinker green white star orange slvs & cap
1988 Charter Party white yellow stars white cap
1989 Desert Orchid dark blue grey slvs & cap
1990 Norton’s Coin black white hoops on body green & white qtd cap
1991 Garrison Savannah orange black star on body & cap striped slvs
1992 Cool Ground dark blue yellow star & slvs
1993 Jodami green black sash black & white hooped slvs & cap
1994 The Fellow red pale green cap
1995 Master Oats black yellow V hooped slvs black cap
1996 Imperial Call yellow & blue diablo yellow cap
1997 Mr Mulligan light blue black slvs with red seams l.blue & black qtd cap
1998 Cool Dawn dark blue white stripe on body white slvs
1999 See More Business dark green white V checked cap light green slvs
2000 Looks Like Trouble blue red epaulettes & star on cap white slvs red chevrons
2001 no race n/a
2002 Best Mate light blue & claret stripes hooped cap light blue slvs
2003 Best Mate light blue & claret stripes hooped cap light blue slvs
2004 Best Mate light blue & claret stripes hooped cap light blue slvs
2005 Kicking King purple white diamond & slvs purple cap
2006 War of Attrition maroon white star on body & cap white armlets
2007 Kauto Star emerald green yellow spots on body horiz. halved slvs purple cap
2008 Denman dark green white V checked cap light green slvs
2009 Kauto Star emerald green yellow spots on body horiz. halved slvs purple cap
2010 Imperial Commander black white stars on body striped slvs black cap
2011 Long Run brown orange slvs qtd cap
2012 Synchronised green & yellow hoops white cap
cheers
I.isin, I think that’s spot on, though I think the colours were almost white, rather than light blue to the naked eye.
Isinglass,
Thanks for the list. Great stuff!Samboca,
Just the last 10 years but available for download in glorious technicolour at: http://www.jockeycolours.com/pdf/CheltenhamGoldCup.pdf1974 Captain Christy pink maroon cross of lorraine qtd cap
I.
Great research as always Isinglass. One query though – weren’t Cpatain Christy’s colours Beige, Brown Cross of Lorraine, Quartered Cap?
Hi Ivanjica ,
it does looks beige on the YouTube footage of the gold cup but ….
if you input captain christy gold cup into Google Images there’s a couple of pictures that appear pink – have got the same picture from an old Schweppes calendar and it’s definitely pink.
cheers
I.Hi Ivanjica and Isinglass
Just cleaning up a few of my honour rolls and noticed I don’t have silks for Crowned Prince who won the 1970 Dewhurst. Can you help me out? Merry Xmas and happy New Year to all on this site!Hi Ivanjica and Isinglass
Just cleaning up a few of my honour rolls and noticed I don’t have silks for Crowned Prince who won the 1970 Dewhurst. Can you help me out? Merry Xmas and happy New Year to all on this site!Hi Slew, he was owned by Frank McMahon who also owned Crowned Prince’s half brother, 1969 Kentucky Derby winner Majestic Prince.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBuAcOEWc0
His US colours as we know were black, yellow hoops on body, black sleeves and cap.
His UK colors were slightly different – black, yellow hoops on body and cuffs, yellow cap black spots. There is a b&w photo on google . I think I have a colour version in one of my Piggott books which I might scan in and try and post on here.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/new … o/79664588Merry xmas to you too and everybody else who continues to make this thread such an important body of research.
Fair to say that Crowned Prince silks were also halved sleeves judging by the photo you posted? My take on it is Black, Yellow hoops, halved sleeves, yellow cap, black spots?
Hi Crowned Prince was owned by F McMahon – colours in the B&H book of 1973 do list them as yellow cuffs.
have seen similar "big" cuffs elsewhere in the past – will agree they look excessive on the photo but would assume if they were halved the paler portion would be up nearer Lester’s elbow.
All the best for 2013 to you all
I.
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