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Thanks for that VtC. I’m shoulder to shoulder with you on the work thing.
Duncreggan was on my shortlist for that. He’s one of the few runners I’ve never been able to ascribe colours to. The footage used in the ‘Champions’ film has been quite helpful in getting most of the others though!
While we’re here, I may as well be cheeky and ask if you’ve got the colours for That’s It and Hot Tomato? I think they’re the only ones I haven’t got.
No probs OA.
I’ve always had That’s It in my head as light blue, with 3 diagonal yellow squares, pretty unusual design! I’d have to dive into my loft to check whether that’s the case 100%, I know the racecard I had, had that design! Might have been stars or spots on the day, I was too distracted at the thought of Venture to Cognacs imminent victory
Hot Tomato was yellow, dark green star, and sleeves, yellow cap…………
the more I think about That’s It, I’m pretty confident it was stars
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Latics fan – I was asking about this upthread as there were a few from the b/w era I did not know. If you PM me, I have a word doc with the written versions of the colours which i can send.
I’ve PMd you, OA (although it still is in my outbox – I don’t think it moves till you view it)
No probs OA.
I’ve always had That’s It in my head as light blue, with 3 diagonal yellow squares, pretty unusual design! I’d have to dive into my loft to check whether that’s the case 100%, I know the racecard I had, had that design! Might have been stars or spots on the day, I was too distracted at the thought of Venture to Cognacs imminent victory
Hot Tomato was yellow, dark green star, and sleeves, yellow cap…………
the more I think about That’s It, I’m pretty confident it was stars
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Sorry, me again
Just seen your update on That’s It VtC. I have another link that might be helpful, this time a snippet from the Champions film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUI0CEDn … re=related
At ten seconds in, we see Gerry Newman (Carrow Boy) pulling down his goggles. Behind him we see a jockey seemingly in light blue with orange stars. Do you (or anyone else?) know if that’s That’s It’s jockey (Gordon Holmes?)
Thanks in advance..
Yeah, that’s him OA, glad I plumped for stars instead of squares after that. Ps did you catch Hot Tomato in that clip?
Nice one VtC, yeah, I can see Hot Tomato now. Never registered before!
Have to say that seeing those Champions clips has put me in mind to grill you about the 1981 Grand National colours…but I think I’ll hold off for now!
What I do find interesting is that the Champions film-makers did seem to have a stab at some authenticity in the colours of the ‘acting’ jockeys they filmed. This applies to the also-rans, as well as the main players.
We can see they have the Brod Munro-Wilson colours for Coolishall, the pink with black spots, which I think was Peter Scudamore on Cheers, and the blue with white spots, which I think was Three of Diamonds. There’s also briefly somone playing Linda Sheedy, in the correct colours, I think. Granted, they’ve played a bit fast and loose with the fate of those colours in the actual race, but you can’t have everything.
What I can’t gauge is to whether many more of the acting jockeys are in genuine colours or not.
Hey OA, you’re spot on with those 3 from the film. I haven’t seen it for years, but from memory, you’re right, they did make a decent stab at authenticity! From memory, there’s a runner which is black, with green hoops, and a White cap, though I might be wrong, anyway that doesn’t apply to any of the 81 runners, those were carried by a horse called Armagnac Princess in the 80’s. No doubt her owners probably lent the colours. That’s probably the case with some of the other runners in the film. I’ll check it out on You Tube tonight.
As for any other queries from 81, fire away, I’m at work but should be able to get back to you.
One of my hobbies is colourising old photos.
Don’t know if you’d like to see this:
Latics , that is very , very clever.
Here are some more French , Irish and American colours I’ve managed to find over recent weeks.
French 1000
1907 MADREE Comte F Scheibler violet & white stripes
1941 LONGTHAHN Comte R de Rivaud white red spots & slvs white capFrench Oaks
1944 POINTE A PITRE R Saint light blue purple braid & capFrench St Leger
1989 TOP SUNRISE Charles E. Schmidt yellow blue hoop , armlets & capIrish Derby
1924 HAINE Charles F Kenyon white green & white slvs & cap ( ?? Striped ? )Belmont Stakes
1877 CLOVERBROOK EA Clabaugh ruby light blue slvs
1897 SCOTTISH CHIEFTEN Marcus Daly revised – copper silver slvs green cap
1899 JEAN BEREAUD Sidney Paget light blue brown cap ( used Whitney colours at this time )
1903 AFRICANDER Hampton Stable turquoise black chevrons on slvs black cap gold tassel
1909 JOE MADDEN Samuel Clay Hildreth black white sash qtd cap blue slvs
1958 CAVAN Joseph E O’Connell green & gold stripes hooped slvs gold cap
1960 CELTIC ASH Green Dunes Farm ( JE O’C ) green & gold stripes hooped slvs gold cap
1961 SHERLUCK Jacob Sher gold red shoulder braces blue ball blue & gold capPreakness Stakes
1877 CLOVERBROOK EA Clabaugh ruby light blue slvs
1898 SLY FOX Charles F Dwyer pink white cap gold tassel
1902 OLD ENGLAND Green B Morris purple white cap
1903 FLOCARLINE MH Tichenor canary black stripes & sash qtd cap
1904 BRYN MAWR Goughacres Stable purple black cap
1905 CAIRNGORM Sidney Paget orange white braid & cap
1909 EFFENDI WT Ryan yellow scarlet sash & cap hooped slvs
1912 COLONEL HOLLOWAY Beverwyck Stable cherry green stripes green cap
1913 BUSKIN John Whalen orange green bars on white slvs green & white cap
1915 RHINE MAIDEN EF Whitney red white ball blue slvs & cap
1918 JACK HARE Jr WE Applegate white blue slvs black cap
1924 NELLIE MORSE HC Fisher vermillion black hoops black cap
1952 BLUE MAN White Oak Stable sky blue red A front & back & shoulder braces sky blue cap
1959 ROYAL ORBIT Estate of J Braunstein red white circled B on back red cap
1960 BALLY ACHE Turfland white gold sash green slvs green & white qtd cap
1972 BEE BEE BEE William S. Farish II revised – green yellow chevrons on body 2 chevrons on slvs qtd cap.cheers
I.Isinglass, Ivanjica ……. where are you guys? Can you assist with the biggest 2YO race in UK, the Dewhurst. Have the colours up to 1969 but that’s it. Any help???? And need a collection for the St James’ Palace Stks, too. Thanks guys.
Isinglass, Ivanjica ……. where are you guys? Can you assist with the biggest 2YO race in UK, the Dewhurst. Have the colours up to 1969 but that’s it. Any help???? And need a collection for the St James’ Palace Stks, too. Thanks guys.
Hi Slew, good to hear from you. I will have a look at what I have for the Dewhurst and St James’ Palace and get back to you. Do you have the colours for the St James’ going back to 1969 as well? ie the search begins from 1968.
Cheers
IvanjicaDewhurst Winning Colours
Re the Dewhurst – winners and owners names are easily available so i’ll just stick to the colours
1968 – Green, scarlet sash and yellow sleeves
1967 – Beaver brown(!?), Maple leaf green crossbelts and cap
1966 – Pale blue, yellow and white check cap
1965 – Champagne, Tangerine crossbelts and cap (90% certain)
1964 – Black, Gold cross and stripe on cap
1963 – Don’t know
1962 – Yellow, dk blue sleeves and black cap
1961 – Light Blue, green sash and stripes on sleeves
1960 – Royal blue & scarlet quartered, scarlet sleeves, white cap
1959 – Black, scarlet cap.
1958 – Don’t know
1957 – Don’t know
1956 – Peacock blue, old gold hoops and sleeves
1955 – White, maroon hoop and armlets
1954 – Green, red sleeves, light blue & red qtrd cap
1953 – Mcalpine Tartan, Gold cap
1952 – Peacock blue, old gold hoops and sleeves
1951 – Orange, grey cap
1950 – White, red spots, black cap
1949 – Orange, grey cap
1948 – Black, white hoop and armlets
1947 – Black, scarlet cap
1946 – Green, chocolate hoops and cap
1945 – Purple, gold braid, scarlet sleeves, blk velvet cap with gold fringe1958 Dewhurst winner’s colours were Light Blue, two dark blue hoops with a gold cap (from another thread quoting Ruffs as the source. same owner owned Nearula
Welcome Blackbarn.
Isinglass and Invanjica have been stalwarts and put a lot of time and effort into this thread and appreciate everything they have done.
It’s very unique and may I say bloody brilliant.
Thanks so much for your input. Much appreciated.
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