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Welcome the forum Bahram.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones however, and your riposte to Barry contained two grammatical errors: "their" instead of "they’re", and a missing apostrophe in "that’s".
JP steals his mates whip and rides a winner. Great riding from one of the best and most versatile jump jockeys around.
Rode a winner at Auteuil last weekend too
A fantastic ride – Lester will be grinning somewhere in Newmarket. Congratulations.
Cunningham has made himself look a complete donk in the last ten minutes – shades of Mellish after Lush Lashes.
Brilliant ride – horsemanship and great pace judgement coming from so far back.
King Harald was pulling-up anyway at the time.
A fantastic ride – Lester will be grinning somewhere in Newmarket. Congratulations.
Cunningham has made himself look a complete donk in the last ten minutes – shades of Mellish after Lush Lashes.
Can’t help but think Mr Cunningham is going a little bit overboard.
Ok the jockey had lost his whip and borrowed one off someone else but that horse was beaten and the winning jockey wasn’t using any illegal aid.
Cheeky yes, cheating no, thats too strong surely?
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Graham Cunningham is beginning to irritate me now – perhaps he wouldn’t mind taking his high horse on a spin around Prestbury Park?
I agree that borrowing a whip mid-race probably shouldn’t be allowable, but you have to give credit to the jockey for having the forethought simply to ask. Cunningham based his rant on the idea that professional golfers can’t use someone else’s clubs, forgetting that the only reason they can’t is because the rules say they can’t; would you really think anything of lending your mate a putter if they happened to forget theirs?
Oh no, Graham, what an offence to my sense of decency that would be (though I didn’t notice your morals coming to the fore when you were heaping praise on Ballydoyle throughout the season).
The fact is that Hoopy was the best horse on the day and, had he not made that horrendous mistake at the fifth which caused McKeown to lose his whip in the first place, he’d have won regardless. I can see him getting a telling off, but the objection that has been made is bordering on desperate.
new member also, first post here.
Very excited to see American Trilogy run shortly, have heard great reports.
(p.s. in defence of me fellow new member, I’m not quite sure what your understanding of ‘their’ is Benny B, but he absolutely used it right)
2 things – American Trilogy fairly disappointing.
Also, apologies Benny B – I only originally saw it in the ‘their millions’ context, not the first one.
had he not made that horrendous mistake at the fifth which caused McKeown to lose his whip in the first place, he’d have won regardless.
That mistake should of course result in horse and jockey having to complete the remainder of the race without the aid of a whip.
It is preposterous to suggest you can simply take another jockey’s whip mid race.
I had no bet.
Racing again shows exactly how professional it really is.
had he not made that horrendous mistake at the fifth which caused McKeown to lose his whip in the first place, he’d have won regardless.
That mistake should of course result in horse and jockey having to complete the remainder of the race without the aid of a whip.
It is preposterous to suggest you can simply take another jockey’s whip mid race.
I had no bet.
Racing again shows exactly how professional it really is.
He didn’t simply "take" another jockeys whip, he asked for the other jockeys whip who was on a beaten horse there is a difference.
I don’t see what the big fuss is about to be honest.
I didn’t have a bet either for the record.
Would have to completely agree with Salselon, and the "if he hadn’t made the mistake" comment is surely irrelevant, as he did.
Backed Chruch Island so money was gone west regardless, no pocket talk.
Backed Garde Champetre there but you got to take your hat off to Davy. Knew exactly what he was doing and rode the others to sleep.
Having followed Battlecry very closely last year both visually and financially…has anyone else came to the conclusion that he is a bit of a dog?
Having followed Battlecry very closely last year both visually and financially…has anyone else came to the conclusion that he is a bit of a dog?
Not really. I think (at the moment) he’s a three miler that is best on goodish ground when allowed to bowl along in front. I’m amazed they didn’t go on with him today in a small field. If I were an odds on punter I’d be pretty annoyed to be honest, horses generally aren’t going to win when you don’t play to their strengths.
That said the ground and the course were a bit against him today IMO I think he wants quicker conditions and a speedier test.
big chance,yes,but i have the suspicion,it is not as clear,as it may look.razor royale is a very good horse,but the dark one could well be dream garden,as the bealby team is doing very well at the moment,especially with its chasers.also,the charlie mann horse and the irish raider are not to dismiss lightly.but,based on the aforementioned trainer form and my liking for the smaller stables,i go with dream garden each way.if you need another marker:mark bradburne is riding out of his skin also at the moment..
good luck,
andy
[Not really. I think (at the moment) he’s a three miler that is best on goodish ground when allowed to bowl along in front. I’m amazed they didn’t go on with him today in a small field. If I were an odds on punter I’d be pretty annoyed to be honest, horses generally aren’t going to win when you don’t play to their strengths.
That said the ground and the course were a bit against him today IMO I think he wants quicker conditions and a speedier test.]
Maybe you are right Ian… last year I wasn’t that sure but took my medicine as his defeats were at big prices (Ascot and the Festival). He was easy to leave today at odds but to tell the truth right now… I don’t like his head carriage, his jumping or his leg cadence (the latest of those may be down to the ground, admittedly)
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