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  • #248121
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    Willie Mullins is on Get On in a few minutes

    #248168
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    Willie Mullins is on Get On in a few minutes

    Any wiser? i never saw the interview!

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    "The Ante-Post King" wrote:

    Willie Mullins is on Get On in a few minutes

    Any wiser? i never saw the interview!

    I missed the start of the interview but I think he only talked about Sesenta and Deutschland.

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    Willie Mullins is on Get On in a few minutes

    Any wiser? i never saw the interview!

    I missed the start of the interview but I think he only talked about Sesenta and Deutschland.

    Cheers "thm" i suppose we should take it as gospel that Mikael will be going for the RSA!

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    Happy to double-up on our Mikael wager, TAPK.

    My stake against your stake – Hurricane Fly finishes in front of Celestial Halo in the 2010 Champion Hurdle….NRNB.

    Same stake Grass, completely seperate bet though,both horses must start the race! Interesting how in a match at current prices Hurricane would be 4/7 and Celestial 7/4, you are favoured yet again but TAPK knows his stuff! cometh the day of reckoning Celestial will only have had 2 runs as he is being laid out for it,Hurricane on the other hand will have no doubt sauntered around several times,he may even be an odds on fav on the day,but until i see him sauntering up the Cheltenham hill i am happy to have the "Celestial Halo" hovering over my Crown! Good Luck

    I thought you said you were a man of vision TAPK? Celestial Halo ran well last year and a lot of that was due to the fact Osana, Hardy Eustace and He were racing for a very long way ahead of the others. Looking through this years field there’s no Osana or Hardy Eustace in fact there is only one horse you could say is a front runner and that’s Celestial Halo himself. Not quite the same when you have to make it all up there on your lonesome and that’s the very thing PN didn’t want last year. It worked well for Celestial Halo last season as most were going that 1/2 pace faster than they would have liked but I can’t see the renewal being run like that Both Hurrican Fly and Binocular would prefer it to be that 1/2 pace slower to enable them to be able to use their speedand that could be said for the biggest majority of the fancied horses.

    Maybe it’s because your a nice guy yu et Grassy of the hook but personally I think it’s because you have a screw loose :lol:

    As far as where will MD run is concerned common sense tells you he won’t go for the Arkle. Not unless Crack Away Jack, Osana and Sizing Europe all fail to make a go of things over fences.

    Look at the past form of these 3. Crack Away Jack wins the Fred Winter, he goes for the Champion Hurdle and in his jockeys opinion would just have about won had he not been squahed to bits at the 2nd last and lost about 3 lengths, Siizing Europe fav for the CH 2008 breaks down when looking like the winner but returns and has already won a chase. Osana just pipped in the 2008 Champion Hurdle, probably the fastest 2 mile front running hurdler in the country and if can jump fences in the same fashion will without a doubt be top class over 2 miles.

    Who on earth in their right mind would want to take those horses on with an animal who has stayer written all over him. Sure he has speed but most of those who run in a race like the RSA don’t, which makes it easier pickings for him. Add that to the fact that history tells us the Kauto and Denman are likely to be past their best by 2011 and what pathwould any sensible person take.

    You had Grassy by the proverbials and let him go ya silly beggar.

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    As far as where will MD run is concerned common sense tells you he won’t go for the Arkle. Not unless Crack Away Jack, Osana and Sizing Europe all fail to make a go of things over fences.

    Look at the past form of these 3. Crack Away Jack wins the Fred Winter, he goes for the Champion Hurdle and in his jockeys opinion would just have about won had he not been squahed to bits at the 2nd last and lost about 3 lengths, Siizing Europe fav for the CH 2008 breaks down when looking like the winner but returns and has already won a chase. Osana just pipped in the 2008 Champion Hurdle, probably the fastest 2 mile front running hurdler in the country and if can jump fences in the same fashion will without a doubt be top class over 2 miles.

    Also add Captain Cee Bee (the forgotton horse) to that list plus whatever French imports Mr Nicholls etc has up his sleeve and there’s the potential for a very strong Arkle. Personally I think Osana may struggle over fences but time will tell.

    The RSA appears the obvious choice for MDH to me.

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    Yes indeed, a strong looking Arkle on paper. But let’s look a bit closer. 1) Crack Away Jack: ran a cracker in the Champion Hurdle and should be a top novice. 2) Osana: Was second in a poor Champ H and I don’t rate him as top class. 3) Sizing Europe: Put up one wonder performance a couple of years ago but hasn’t been the same since, has to be doubts about him.

    Yes, you have Crack Away Jack, Captain Cee Bee, and whatever Nicholls might have up his sleeve (nothing last year) and it will be a strong race. But Mikael D’Haguenet would be perfectly suited by the stiff 2 miles on Good-soft or worse. I see no reason at this stage to run him in the RSA come Cheltenham and give him a gruelling race when there is no need to. I’m sure things will be alot clearer by January.

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    I doubt if there’s a horse around that could give Mikael D’Haguenet a gruelling race over 3m2f. The trip isn’t a factor with horses who don’t get over a hard race anyway. Doesn’t matter of it’s a 5f race or a 4 mile race the effect is the same.

    Look at Red Rum rins in the National goes to Ayr pisses up in the Scottish. Celestial Halo runs 2nd in the Champion Hurdle runs like a cow at Aintree and it wasn’t the course he was beaten too easily for that…he’d simply gone….even Master Minded was affected to a degree when beaten at Aintree……Kauto Star according to Ruby left his race at Ascot…..other horses can race all day and up to now Mikael D’Haguenet has never shown any ill effects from any racing he’s had.

    Perhaos Osana will bounce back perhaps not but you have to be kidding about Katchit’s Champion Hurdle. It was without doubt the best since Istabraq’a last win IMO. Katchit won the Triumph followed up at Aintree and was trained for nothing else but the CH that season. It’s no surprise he flopped since with his size and lack of scope but he was one helluva horse

    Osana was never right all season according to David Pipe, Katchit just went to pieces but he stuffed Punjabi on the CH who went on to win a great Champion Hurdle with class horses filling the first 4 places……Add Huricane Fly to the field this year and we could see one of the best CH’s of all time.

    Of you think Katchit’s was a bad Champion Hurdle Sublimity’s must have been a selling hurdle :lol:

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    Happy to double-up on our Mikael wager, TAPK

    You had Grassy by the proverbials and let him go ya silly beggar.

    Ye of little faith Fist, i am a big believer in champion hurdle form, last years race is solid! The hurricane has to prove himself! Grasshoppers backs against the wall!!

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    Of you think Katchit’s was a bad Champion Hurdle Sublimity’s must have been a selling hurdle

    Both were substandard renewals imo. Punjabi Is the only one to have franked the form (in fairness, boy has he franked it). But everything else has come out and got beaten. I am by no means saying that it was a totally dire race, but it was not anything special. Katchit wouldn’t have touched Hardy Eustace, Brave Inca, Or Macs Joy in their pomp.

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    Just booked Cheltenham week off work 8)

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    An Siorrac

    Copper Bleu

    Any ideas which races these two might end up in this season?

    #249226
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    Bolger specialises in Banks races, Sump, so An Siorrac might be aimed at the Cross-Country series at Cheltenham.

    I would imagine Copper Bleu will run in novice chases, and be aimed at the Arkle.

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    I always take Cheltenham week off, Burroughill…..go to a preview the week before, go to Cheltenham on the Tuesday and spend the rest of the week darting backwards and forwards from the bookies……Heaven!

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    I always take it off too, but I don’t go to the track any more, just sit glued to the telly for the week. Wonderful. I love every single minute :-)

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    Corm, any chance we can get the Cheltenham 2010 section up and running now the site has been updated?

    Should be seeing more and more quality NH horses out in the next few weeks now that the flat is winding up. Plenty of decent horses entered up for the weekend at Gowran and Tipp here in Ireland.

    #251226
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    I was just thinking that too. Now Autumn’s upon us, we can start getting pointers for March, so it’s a good time to start the topic up. It’s exciting seeing the big names starting to appear on the track again :-)

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