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Could be my memory playing tricks but I’m sure everyone used to complain about the old presenters
I don’t dislike Tanya, but it does my head in when she can’t pronounce the horses names. I miss Francome."Finnans Rainbow"
I concur with the majority of views expressed on this thread.
I don’t however miss "Thommo", and I cannot believe that Tanya has retained a role.
I too wish there was more focus on the horses pre – race, rather than fatuous discussion in the commentary studio.
Perhaps I am simply becoming old, and resistant to change.Could be my memory playing tricks but I’m sure everyone used to complain about the old presenters
I don’t dislike Tanya, but it does my head in when she can’t pronounce the horses names. I miss Francome.Both her and Nick Luck misprounced Sire De Grugys name.It is not seer but Sire as in mire,tire,fire etc.
That is a difficult one though. Un de Sceaux is one that bothers me [probably can’t even spell it properly].
Could be my memory playing tricks but I’m sure everyone used to complain about the old presenters
I don’t dislike Tanya, but it does my head in when she can’t pronounce the horses names. I miss Francome.Both her and Nick Luck misprounced Sire De Grugys name.It is not seer but Sire as in mire,tire,fire etc.
It would be seer in French wouldn’t it?
Could be my memory playing tricks but I’m sure everyone used to complain about the old presenters
I don’t dislike Tanya, but it does my head in when she can’t pronounce the horses names. I miss Francome.Both her and Nick Luck misprounced Sire De Grugys name.It is not seer but Sire as in mire,tire,fire etc.
It would be seer in French wouldn’t it?
Yes it would be seer as per below
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictio … olicy=true
With regard to the team.
For Christs sake don’t even think of bringing back some of the old team. McCririck and Leslie Graham are not my cup of tea at all and I can only take Thommo in extremely small doses. Alistair Down could sometimes be a little mawkish for want of a better word, however I wouldn’t object to him coming back. Mike Cattermole seemed harmless enough and if push came to shove I would probably prefer him to Nick Luck. Nick Luck irritates me and I can’t quite put my finger on why. Maybe it’s because he seems bent on bringing every big race to a crescendo of hype. Claire Balding sometimes has the same affliction but on the whole she is very good. I would take Francome over Fitzgerald. I like Graham Cunningham and Jim McGrath is OK. I’m probably in a minority here but for me Rishi has improved and is now bearable. I like Alice Plunkett but I’m a little apathetic with regard to Emma Spencer. In the betting ring I have the same feeling for Tanya and Tom Lee as I do with Emma. The whole betting piece I could probably do without however I appreciate for some it is informative. As long as it is succinct and apposite I can put up with the present presenters. Mr Hoiles over Mr Holt however there are no complaints with either
All IMHO of course
It may be pronounced Seer in France but no-one at Cisswood calls him Seer and that includes the owner.
I also still hate the fingers shown pressing the buttons on the touch screen desk (totally unnecessary and very messy) and the painted on stripes and faded grass superimposed on the track near the winning line. Again, totally unnecessary.
Totally agree. The touchscreen is ridiculously annoying and amateurish. Seriously, who at a TV production company gets paid to come up with this rubbish!! Disgraceful.
My heart just sinks when they go to the cabin……endless chat & no horses in the paddock or at the start for the next race!
With regard to the team.
For Christs sake don’t even think of bringing back some of the old team. McCririck and Leslie Graham are not my cup of tea at all and I can only take Thommo in extremely small doses. Alistair Down could sometimes be a little mawkish for want of a better word, however I wouldn’t object to him coming back. Mike Cattermole seemed harmless enough and if push came to shove I would probably prefer him to Nick Luck. Nick Luck irritates me and I can’t quite put my finger on why. Maybe it’s because he seems bent on bringing every big race to a crescendo of hype. Claire Balding sometimes has the same affliction but on the whole she is very good. I would take Francome over Fitzgerald. I like Graham Cunningham and Jim McGrath is OK. I’m probably in a minority here but for me Rishi has improved and is now bearable. I like Alice Plunkett but I’m a little apathetic with regard to Emma Spencer. In the betting ring I have the same feeling for Tanya and Tom Lee as I do with Emma. The whole betting piece I could probably do without however I appreciate for some it is informative. As long as it is succinct and apposite I can put up with the present presenters. Mr Hoiles over Mr Holt however there are no complaints with either
All IMHO of course
Absolutely (almost) spot on. I like Nick Luck, he’s a good "presenter". The excellent Dimbo Jimbo has been brought out of his shell by Cunningham.
Don’t know what most of you are moaning about. The mere fact TRFers are TRFers suggests we are died-in-the-wool racing nuts. Therefore, we’re (on the whole) going to like form gurus more than "presenters" and more paddock action than cubbyhole chat, we’ll dislike dinky hand movements and over-hype. But this is a terrestrial channel production. It needs to cater for more types than us racing geeks! Especially knowing many of us will prefer RUK or ATR anyway.
All that considered… I think Channel 4 do a fine job.
Value Is EverythingMy heart just sinks when they go to the cabin……endless chat & no horses in the paddock or at the start for the next race!
Agreed. The box is vastly over-used to the detriment of the horses. They are the stars, not the likes of Cunningham etc. I don’t see why people who can work out races for themselves want to hear loads of non-critical analysis and it is probably very boring to the casual observer.
Given the lack of good racing this afternoon I think they put together a very enjoyable programme.
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Watched the Morning Line today for the first time in a few months, I found it incredibly boring, dull and dreary.
Regardless, I stick to what I said in the other thread, I’m still a fan of Cunningham and Rishi.
I don’t disslike any of the other presenters, I just don’t think they add much to the show in terms of entertainment and
critical
analysis.
Oh yes another point, thought Richard Hoiles was good on the Channel 4 show today, him and Cunnimgham seemed to work well together and added to each others points nicely. Wouldn’t mind seeing more of them together (in a non-sexual way).
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Brainstorming – I think the problem is the fact that horse racing is such an old sport, after this many years you run out of new ways to cover it! I think they either need to completely think outside the box and do something revolutionary with their presentation/coverage or go back to a more simple format and do that right.
I can’t see why they can’t do the pre-race analysis whilst the runners are parading or as they canter down to post. This used to happen years ago in the days of the ITV Seven & Grandstand BBC coverage & worked fine. Why have they to all sit in portacabin round a table without a horse in sight?
As someone has said the coverage is so dry only the most hardened will carry on watching it. ATR is better now.- Total Posts 764
I don’t mind the studio stuff, actually I quite like it, doens’t bother me too much that I can’t see the horses before the race as I trust the exchanges to tell me which horses ‘look’ weak (and I don’t know the animals well enough anyway to be a good ‘eye-judge’).
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Those were the days.While times have moved on, there is too much around being polished on the presenting side.
The horses and atmosphere surrounding the track should be the main attraction, not how eloquent people are.
Going back to my original post, it’s people like Francome with his knowledge and accent and Thompson with his connection with people who are the draw. The latest bunch i.e. Balding, Pershad etc seemed processed, like they have been produced from a factory.
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