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Changing times, Different deal, or Different trainer ?

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  • #1668
    wit
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    Sep 2005:

    Godolphin-retained L Dettori rides Scorpion for Mrs Magnier and Mr Tabor to win a Group 1 at Doncaster. Trained by A O’Brien.

    bit of a kerfuffle afterwards:

    "…..it left a bit of a sour taste with everybody, so perhaps I shouldn’t have done it……They are our main rivals and you can’t be black one day and then white another day. I made a winning mistake, but it doesn’t reflect well on my team when they see me ride for the main opposition. But you learn by your mistakes."

    <br>May 2007:

    Godolphin-retained K McEvoy rides Mountain High for Mrs Magnier and Mr Tabor to win a Listed race at Ascot.<br>Trained by M Stoute.

    silence afterwards ?

    #59468
    beauzam
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     This conflict of interest dates back to Adagio’s initial start at Newmarket as a 2year old.A  pivotal  and eyecatching race for Stoute.<br>  Success has dogged Mcevoy this year also,having been the leading rider at the Dubai carnival when riding predominately for Ishmail Mohammed.Mohammed’s stable since has been incorporated into Godolphin and the trainer has been banished to some remote wadi to pursue his stated love of training endurance horses.<br>  I know the retainer is juicy,and outside success improves your negotiating position ,but the time comes when money takes a back seat to professional ambition.<br>  The more Stoute wants to retain him,the more likely his destination will be to replace the aging Ballydoyle encumbents.<br>  On a related note should they both declare which way does one go on thursday, Salford Mill or Adagio?

    #59469
    Galejade
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    Interesting point.

    My guess is ‘different trainer’ although as a second jockey Mcevoy’s position is perhaps different from Dettori.

    #59470
    davidbrady
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    The trainer has nothing to do with it IMO as the Sheikhs beef (so to speak) is with Coolmore due to their non-utilisation of Darley stallions.

    It had been suggested on the Betfair forum a couple of weeks ago that McEvoy doesn’t actually have a retainer with Godolphin even though he is effectively second-string stable jockey to Saeed Bin Suroor.

    I don’t know whether or not this is true

    #59471
    wit
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    the godolphin site has recent news items referring to "Godolphin’s retained jockeys, Frankie Dettori and Kerrin McEvoy…"

    is hugh taylor  (a) still Kerrin’s agent? ; (b)  still on the forum?; (c)  at liberty to comment ?

    best regards

    wit

    #59472
    beauzam
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    Permit me to cross thread a little here.Hugh Bowman reinforces the value of keeping your horse balanced and straight.The reason,which Fallon fell immediately foul of, is that stewards in Australia are professional and enforce the rules.The fact that he was able to fulfill his Melbourne Cup engagement was purely pr and not officiousness as can be the case over there.

    #59473
    wit
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    Lydia picks up the topic:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ … 795830.ece

    <br>best regards

    wit

    #59474
    beauzam
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    Can we claim a royalty payable to TRF for initiating the topic?Coincidentally Mcevoy looked apprehensive/indecisive on the first two days at York.

    #59475
    yeatsyeats
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    Quote: from wit on 3:31 am on May 16, 2007[br]Lydia picks up the topic:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ … 795830.ece

    In the article at the end Lydia refers to Mick Kinane’s criticised ride on Soldier of Fortune, I didn’t see any criticism of him on any of the forums for the ride, who criticised him? after all he won a race where it looked likely he would be beat.

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