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    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Great to see Hurricane Fly win, I’ve been on him since May! The quicker ground helped, made it a true test of speed, and his was the classiest by far, very happy right now, for connections, and for myself!

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    Great to see Hurricane Fly win, I’ve been on him since May! The quicker ground helped, made it a true test of speed, and his was the classiest by far, very happy right now, for connections, and for myself!

    Postby JJMSports on 14 Mar 2011, 15:01
    My banker for the meeting, I am devastated, had it in every ante post bet.

    Tut,tut!

    #345311
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    Khyber Kim did actually run up to his true mark today and BHA ratings put his performance within 1 lb of last years, plus NTD had been very bullish about his form and chances …today the Hurricane simply bolted up with any amount in hand ….I didnt back him I wasnt sure he would handle Cheltenham but he did it with such ease and he was going away at the end. Hurricane Fly is undoubtedly the very best there is…he simply won as he liked and was as impressive as anything I can recall …today he proved he is one very special horse!

    #345315
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    You sure the BHA have rated him for today, Maxie?
    RPR have HF at 169 today, 5lb below Binnie’s rating for last year.

    #345317
    BeauRanger
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    2 very good horses

    hurricane proved it today – well done and handled the fast ground

    peddlers – very good and fought to the end – we might have a star

    #345325
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    Thought it was a cracking race. At last we have seen what Hurricane Fly’s form is now that he’s beaten some different rivals :lol: Thought he was gonna romp away by half a dozen lengths after the last but Peddlers Cross was very gallant in defeat.

    #345328
    Ballybricken
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    Champion Hurdle

    This should be the race of the meeting, possibly the decade. There is a realistic case to be made for all of the first 7 in the betting. Menorah showed he has guts as well as speed with a brilliant weight carrying performance in the Greatwood Hurdle earlier this year and easily dispatched top novices Cue Card and Silvanico Conti in the International hurdle. The flip side is both the above appear stayers in the making and he has yet to beat a rival that could be considered a realistic contender for this race. Similarily Mille Chief won a good handicap under a big weight but struggled home against a horse who wouldnt be near this class next time out. Oscar Whiskey is a tad unlucky in that he probably falls between stools and ideally wants 2m4f.
    Dunguib was last years talking horse but his poor hurdling and a ‘funny’ ride saw him come up short. His comeback run although not that impressive to the eye, if you take Luska Lad as a yardstick (usually gives his running) the form is not that far off what Hurricane Fly has shown this year and he may be a lively outsider.
    Binocular is an enigma. He was impressive last year although the race looked to lack depth and he has never run a bad race at the festival. Ive a feeling he’s never had to deal with the likes of the 2 potential superstars in the field this year.
    Hurricane Fly has the effortless look of a champion about. Fragile but brilliant he’s the winner of 9 out of his 11 races over hurdles. Most in the top grade. Of his two defeats ,one came when a novice in his native France and the other when returning from a long layoff and even then it was a respectable 3rd in a Grade 1. Has yet to face this kind of a test but everything in his makeup and breeding suggest he should relish it(Group winning son of Montjeu over staying trips on flat).Will take something very special to beat him.
    That could very well be Peddlers Cross. As yet unbeaten over a variety of trips from 2m to 2m5f. Looked a certain future stayer when a gutsy winner of the 2m5 novice at last years festival beating the experienced Reve De Siviola and Ascot Gold Cup winner Rite of Passage. He returned this year over 2m and proved he is at least equally effective over that trip slamming reigning champ Binocular and Starluck under conditions more suited to speed than stamina. Not overly impressive in a bloodless prep win although he’s not the type to noticeably quicken and just keeps pulling out more off the bridle. If he kicks for home early off the turn the rest are in serious trouble as it’ll take a tough customer to peg him back.

    Selection: Peddlers Cross

    R F/C Peddlers Cross/Hurricane Fly

    Thought Peddlers would outbattle him but The Fly looks the real deal. Binny woulda been beat here too imo.

    #345331
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    Champion Hurdle

    This should be the race of the meeting, possibly the decade. There is a realistic case to be made for all of the first 7 in the betting. Menorah showed he has guts as well as speed with a brilliant weight carrying performance in the Greatwood Hurdle earlier this year and easily dispatched top novices Cue Card and Silvanico Conti in the International hurdle. The flip side is both the above appear stayers in the making and he has yet to beat a rival that could be considered a realistic contender for this race. Similarily Mille Chief won a good handicap under a big weight but struggled home against a horse who wouldnt be near this class next time out. Oscar Whiskey is a tad unlucky in that he probably falls between stools and ideally wants 2m4f.
    Dunguib was last years talking horse but his poor hurdling and a ‘funny’ ride saw him come up short. His comeback run although not that impressive to the eye, if you take Luska Lad as a yardstick (usually gives his running) the form is not that far off what Hurricane Fly has shown this year and he may be a lively outsider.
    Binocular is an enigma. He was impressive last year although the race looked to lack depth and he has never run a bad race at the festival. Ive a feeling he’s never had to deal with the likes of the 2 potential superstars in the field this year.
    Hurricane Fly has the effortless look of a champion about. Fragile but brilliant he’s the winner of 9 out of his 11 races over hurdles. Most in the top grade. Of his two defeats ,one came when a novice in his native France and the other when returning from a long layoff and even then it was a respectable 3rd in a Grade 1. Has yet to face this kind of a test but everything in his makeup and breeding suggest he should relish it(Group winning son of Montjeu over staying trips on flat).Will take something very special to beat him.
    That could very well be Peddlers Cross. As yet unbeaten over a variety of trips from 2m to 2m5f. Looked a certain future stayer when a gutsy winner of the 2m5 novice at last years festival beating the experienced Reve De Siviola and Ascot Gold Cup winner Rite of Passage. He returned this year over 2m and proved he is at least equally effective over that trip slamming reigning champ Binocular and Starluck under conditions more suited to speed than stamina. Not overly impressive in a bloodless prep win although he’s not the type to noticeably quicken and just keeps pulling out more off the bridle. If he kicks for home early off the turn the rest are in serious trouble as it’ll take a tough customer to peg him back.

    Could not have put it better – All credence to the fly. I was on Peddlers but at the turn could see the Fly ahd him. If Peddlers had (for arguments sake) 5l improvement, the fly would still have got there imho.

    Selection: Peddlers Cross

    R F/C Peddlers Cross/Hurricane Fly

    Thought Peddlers would outbattle him but The Fly looks the real deal. Binny woulda been beat here too imo.

    #345336
    johnjdonoghue
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    Oh ye of little faith!!!

    :lol:

    Me thinks that would include myself, super performance from a super champion. I was a doubter, a massive doubter, but he was a very worthy winner.

    JohnJ

    #345344
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    Right,

    Good performance from Hurricane Fly – not a great, but good.

    He outpaced Peddlers and I cannot see how Peddlers could ever reverse the form, Hurricane could have found more if needed.

    Peddlers was proven to be NOT quick enough – otherwise he would have won, surely?

    OK – he’s quick enough to come 2nd in a Champion Hurdle – make of that what you will. (and he didn’t win, Tuffers, as you demanded he would :wink:)

    He’ll be a lot better off chasing as he seems born for that game.

    I personally feel Hurricane would beat Binny as I think this was a lot stronger race than 2010.

    As for my tip, Menorah, oh dear. No hard luck story at least – just was not good enough. Well done to those that opposed him and congrats if you backed the winner.

    It didn’t look like they went a suicidal pace IMHO.

    Zip

    #346699
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    peddlers was quick enough as the doubters saw just look at the times of the race? hurricane looks like a new istabraq and is better than i thought, i would like to see peddlers run in chases as he is built that way, big bucks had better watch out if the hurricanes about as i think the stamina he has will let him stay 3 mile, he could be very special at any trip in fact – what a horse.

    #347173
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Why would they be bothered stepping the horse up in trip to take on slow old boats when there’s Champion Hurdles to be won?

    #347178
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Great to see Hurricane Fly win, I’ve been on him since May! The quicker ground helped, made it a true test of speed, and his was the classiest by far, very happy right now, for connections, and for myself!

    Postby JJMSports on 14 Mar 2011, 15:01
    My banker for the meeting, I am devastated, had it in every ante post bet.

    Tut,tut!

    Thanks for such thorough posting reet. Go back into the thread, and see who I was on, I posted on 17th July and then again on December 2nd who my pair against the field were. The Christmas Hurdle run settled it, that Binocular would have the slight edge, and then with him not running, it was a no brainer.

    Hope that clears things up for you, Jack.

    #347183
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    Frankly JJM, I don’t give a toss what you backed.
    What concerned me was the direct contradiction in those 2 posts, made on consecutive days..

    #347969
    msercs
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    I just re watched the Champion Hurdle. I backed Menorah and dont like to talk through my pocket, but was that the true Menorah we saw on the day? A couple of the jumps he put in down the back were impressive. I really hope they go for the champion again just for piece of mind. Happy to be proved wrong but I wont be writing Menorah off just yet.

    Martin

    #348026
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    He’ll be seeing Hurricane Fly’s back end again as he stretches clear up the home straight at Punchestown in six weeks time.

    #348142
    msercs
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    Brill if they are taking on Hurricane Fly again, I think in hindsight Menorah should have had a run after xmas. Bring it on!

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