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    Aragorn
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    I agree but I don’t think Mullins is a man of superlatives. I would give his runners the utmost respect following his comments and record in the race. I haven’t had a bet in this race and probably won’t until the day because I have no idea at this stage.

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    stilvi
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    Following on from the above I thought 20/1 Vino Griego was reasonable so the Tote’s 40/1 looks massive. As a maiden he may not get in but on the strength of the Newbury I have also had a little on Lidar.

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    Following on from the above I thought 20/1 Vino Griego was reasonable so the Tote’s 40/1 looks massive. As a maiden he may not get in but on the strength of the Newbury I have also had a little on Lidar.

    I agree stilvi, really like the look of this one and 40-1 is far too tempting, also quite like Mullins horse Glenlo Abbey and Weld’s horse Universal truth, although welds statement after UVs last win would have indicated that he would be going somewhere easier for his next race, he has seen fit to enter him in the champ bumper since that run and has him in a reasonably well contested race on sunday.

    #212668
    stilvi
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    I see Lidar is entered at Doncaster tomorrow. Not the best preparation but hopefully the idea is to win this easily and increase his chances of getting a run at Cheltenham.

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    The market for this race is hard to believe. More and more the Newbury race I mentioned above looks the best bumper run this season but you can still get 25/1NRNB Lidar and 40/1 Vino Griego. There is no better value on offer anywhere. The top of the market is all about Mullins hype and the two horses I have mentioned should really be challenging Dunguib for favouritism. Lidar had no more than an exercise canter yesterday and there is appears no reason why he shouldn’t go Cheltenham. He should definitely be suited by the faster pace.

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    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Very taking piece of work from Sicilian Secret there at Leopardstown. Brought back memories of Missed That four years ago before going on to win the bumper.

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    Very taking piece of work from Sicilian Secret there at Leopardstown. Brought back memories of Missed That four years ago before going on to win the bumper.

    He worked better than the other three horses around him. That really is all you can say. He may be a very good horse but on limited racecourse evidence 4/1 for the Champion Bumper is a shocking price.

    #212972
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    Most definitely, stilvi, especially when Willie Mullins mentioned one or two of those who trailed in the two workouts very favourably in a recent ATR feature.

    He’s playing games again, nothing more.

    #212980
    Habat
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    We have no idea what weights the horses were carrying in the workouts do we? So first impressions

    might

    not be all that they seem………

    #213067
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    We have no idea what weights the horses were carrying in the workouts do we? So first impressions

    might

    not be all that they seem………

    We don’t know what weights they were carrying but Ruby, Paul Townend and David Casey would all be naturally lighter than Patrick. The word was that Sicilian Secret was considered to be the best of the bumper brigade and that piece of work would give you plenty of encouragement.

    Lios A Choill is a horse I like. He’s a half brother to Liss A Paoraigh and Liss De Paor. He didn’t work yesterday and I don’t know if he’ll be part of Willie’s Cheltenham team but I think he’s definitely one to watch for the future.

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    Lios A Choill is a horse I like. He’s a half brother to Liss A Paoraigh and Liss De Paor. He didn’t work yesterday and I don’t know if he’ll be part of Willie’s Cheltenham team but I think he’s definitely one to watch for the future.

    Lios A Choill in all probability is one of the nicer prospects but on the basis of his first run 14/1 for the Festival Bumper is again a ridiculous price. They went no pace at all when he made his debut and Noel Meade’s runner up drifted from 4/1 to 10/1 which hardly indicates that he was above average.

    Still keeping my fingers crossed about Lidar but the market signals do not look positive. It will be a great shame if every trainer over here is scared off by the Mullins hype.

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    Surely interesting that he didn`t bring Quinola des Obeaux to the trials,explaining that the horse has done enough work at home,and didn`t need any more?

    #213138
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    Another member of the Vino Griego fan club here. Totesports 40’s is now nr no bet so have invested accordingly.

    #213149
    stilvi
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    Another member of the Vino Griego fan club here. Totesports 40’s is now nr no bet so have invested accordingly.

    I think the intention has always been to run that was the reasoning behind putting him up ahead of Lidar. If they both turned up it would be difficult for him to confirm the Newbury form.

    Does anyone know how a ballot on this race would work?

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    Avatar photoSirHarryLewis
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    Most definitely, stilvi, especially when Willie Mullins mentioned one or two of those who trailed in the two workouts very favourably in a recent ATR feature.

    He’s playing games again, nothing more.

    Was he working with his stable companions.????

    Cause if he was, you really would not want to read too much into it.

    SHL

    #213393
    PaleRider
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    Many of you ,talk of value , ! value is only good if the horse wins or is placed at a good price ,otherwise its meaningless ! :D

    #213587
    Blunkett
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    Lidar and Vino both 25’s on Oddschecker now.

    The contraction of Vino’s price is surely a good sign that it runs?

    Also, the winner of that race, Zaza-something or other – anyone know of its target? Aintree?

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